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Finland looks to introduce Australia-style ban on social media

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Re: Finland looks to introduce Australia-style ban on social media

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

embedding-shape wrote: post #258
SauntSolaire wrote: post #221

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Agreed. I wish they would consider charging a small fee (~$1) to create an account. That alone would cut down on all the AI spam and give subreddit moderators a fighting chance.

> give subreddit moderators a fighting chance Moderators are part of the problem really, there are a handful of moderators holding the reins over all the popular subreddits, and "smaller" (even big ones) subreddits suffer from the same problem. As an example, r/MistralAI, r/LocalLLaMA, r/ChatGPT, r/OpenAI and r/grok are all run by the same person. The only survivable places on reddit left are the subreddits with smal…

> But they're so few.

Given how many subreddits there, I have to ask if you have statistics to back up this claim.

My intuition is that people have problems with a bunch of popular subreddits, but the vast majority of subreddits are just fine. I have no statistics to back up this intuition.

Do you?

Re: Finland looks to introduce Australia-style ban on social media

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

shevy-java wrote: post #245
alexjplant wrote: post #210

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Reddit has been a cesspit of recycled pablum, populist image macros and low effort reply comments for more than a decade. Enthusiast subreddits are astroturfed to hell and back by people with a Shopify storefront and a dream trying to growth hack their way to a hockey stick. The low barrier to entry to each community means that this vapid culture eventually diffuses itself across subreddits that might otherwise be go…

phpBB was quite nice, but you must remember that people used phpBB less and less over the years. Many phpBB style webforums are dead, and died before discourse etc... came about. People's habits changed. I do agree that things got worse in the last ~16 years or so.

What, really, is the difference between phpBB and discourse (not discord) in the context of the discussion we're having here?

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Post by nephihaha »

logicchains wrote: post #93
Noaidi wrote: post #60

Can we be it for adults now? Seriously, can we? I mean, if it affects a children’s what makes we think it doesn’t affect adults? Alcohol affects children, and it affects adults. If social media affects children, it also affects adults. The big live social media was it was meant to connect people but in truth, it was designed to control people.

>The big live social media was it was meant to connect people but in truth, it was designed to control people. This is absurd. People have access to far more information today via decentralised media than they did when information was filtered through a small elite cabal of media company CEOs. Restricting access to information is a means of controlling people, and that's exactly what the governments pushing to ban so…

Search engines restrict information. You get a very limited selection of information off them nowadays.

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

expedition32 wrote: post #238
philipallstar wrote: post #128

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Parents should instead regulate what their kids can do.

It's the job of society to help parents otherwise the birth rate will just continue to decline. Remember that for the first time in history people can choose not to have kids.

What does parents choosing if their kids can use tiktok have to do with the birth rate?

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Post by nate_meurer »

tzs wrote: post #191
Mindwipe wrote: post #20

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There is no such thing in practice. Anything with zero knowledge is never going to be considered robust enough by a government. Zero knowledge protocols really have no functional revocation mechanism.

The EU has been working on a zero knowledge system as part of the EU Digital Identity Wallet project for a few years now. It is currently undergoing large scale field tests in several countries with expected release late this year. All member states are required to provide at least one free secure interoperable implementation to their citizens, and regulated industries such as banks and telecoms, are required to acce…

Which of these governments do you trust? The same governments, mind you, that are working diligently to end anonymity on the Internet.

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Post by blackqueeriroh »

As someone who has literally been on the internet since BBSes, the idea that those days were better absolutely is contradicted by my own experience, in which I was victimized and exploited several times because of the lack of any real moderation.
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