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Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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It does more than AEB. It also knows to swerve out of the way during E: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1MWml-81e0

Generally known as AES, for example from BMW available with Active Driving Assistant or Driving Assistant Plus packages.

I have a late model Audi, and a Tesla Model 3. Audi has all the bells and whistles.

Doesn't come close to the safety I feel in the Tesla. Not even close. I know anecdotal

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

#152

If it autonomous or self-driving then why is the person in the car paying for the insurance? Surely if it's Tesla making the decisions, they need the insurance?

The coder and sensor manufacturers need the insurance for wrongful death lawsuits

and Musk for removing lidar so it keeps jumping across high speed traffic at shadows because the visual cameras can't see true depth

99% of the people on this website are coders and know how even one small typo can cause random fails, yet you trust them to make you an alpha/beta tester at high speed?

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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Who was paying for this?

You as the consumer when you buy a tesla car that's twice the price of what you can get it for in Asia. Teslas are very cheap to produce. Remember with their own insurance they also have access to the parts at cost.

That is not true. Since Tesla was losing money on their insurance to boost sales the customers were not paying for it since they were receiving a service for below cost.

The people paying were actually the retirement funds who fronted Tesla's cash reserves when they purchased Tesla stock and the US government paying for it in the form of more tax credits on sales that would not have otherwise materialized without this financial fraud. But do not worry, retirement funds and the US government may have lost, but it boosted Tesla sales and stock valuation so that Elon Musk could reach his KPIs to get his multiple tens of billions of dollars of payout.

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

#154

The whole point of self-driving cars (to me) is I don't have to own or insure it, someone else deals with that and I just make it show up with my phone when I need it.

Imagine this for a whole neighborhood! Maybe it'd be more efficient for the transport to come at regular intervals though. And while we're at it, let's pick up other people along the way, you'll need a bigger vehicle though, perhaps bus-sized... Half-jokes aside, if you don't own it, you'll end up paying more to the robotaxi company than you would have paid to own the car. This is all but guaranteed based on all SaaS…

> if you don't own it, you'll end up paying more to the robotaxi company than you would have paid to own the car

Maybe for you, I already don't own it and have not found that to be true. I pretty much order an uber whenever I don't feel like riding my bike or the bus, and that costs I also rent a car now and then for weekend trips, that also is a few hundred bucks at most.

I would be surprised if robotaxis were more expensive long term.

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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> "Tesla’s data shows that Full Self-Driving miles are twice as safe as manual driving" Teslas only do FSD on motorways where you tend to have far fewer accidents per mile. Also, they switch to manual driving if they can't cope, and because the driver isn't paying attention this usually results in a crash. But hey, it's in manual driving, not FSD, so they get to claim FSD is safer. FSD is not and never will be safer…

> Teslas only do FSD on motorways where you tend to have far fewer accidents per mile. They have been end to end street level for the past two years.

Not successfully.

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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> ignore my lying eyes and make logically unsound arguments Why haven't you acknowledged this video as fake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu2N8f3nEYc

I am utterly baffled by what you are trying to argue with this post except for distracting from the weakness of your original argument with more attempted(?) ad hominems. Must be my bias showing.

Uh huh

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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Self-driving municipal busses would be fantastic.

Also, a real nightmare for the municipal trade unions. (Do you know why every NYC subway train needs to have not one but two operators, even though it could run automatically just fine?)

Why?

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

#159

If it autonomous or self-driving then why is the person in the car paying for the insurance? Surely if it's Tesla making the decisions, they need the insurance?

That's probably the future; Mercedes currently does do this in limited form:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a39481699/what-happens-if-...

Re: Self Driving Car Insurance

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> Teslas only do FSD on motorways where you tend to have far fewer accidents per mile. They have been end to end street level for the past two years.

Not successfully.

Successful enough for me and many other people I know. End to end from my house to grocery store, kids schools, friends houses, etc. Multiple times per day for the past year.

It’s not perfect but I’d consider it a smashing success for something I rely on for safely transporting my family every day.

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