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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by hbn »

Draiken wrote: post #100
pjc50 wrote: post #46

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I think this is a good lesson in why companies don't try to bring stuff to Linux: the market is incredibly resentful of products.

Come on... it's always the same reason: money. Companies don't support Linux because it's not widespread enough so it can't outweigh the costs. They don't give a rat's ass for the market's resentfulness or lack thereof. The Linux market was basically not a real market before because their market share was simply too small. There are plenty of products made for resentful markets and as long as they keep being profitab…

> They don't give a rat's ass for the market's resentfulness or lack thereof.

Indie devs do. Some of the best selling games are made by solo devs or very small teams.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by lm28469 »

emsign wrote: post #14

I'm very hopeful that Linux gaming will save the open PC desktop despite big tech is coming to destroy it. Or at least keep PCs alive for another decade. Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. GOG creating a Linux launcher and Steam Box with SteamOS coming out soon should benefit PC users in general not just gamers since Microslop sees Windows like a social experiment where they can test AI on unsuspec…

> Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers.

A drop in the bucket really, nvidia used to make the majority of their revenues from gaming, now it's under 10%

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!4U09!,f_auto,q_auto:...

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Post by nialv7 »

pjmlp wrote: post #212
nialv7 wrote: post #208

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nothing stopping them from developing on Linux workstations, cross-compiling to Windows, and testing with Wine/Proton. saves them Windows license fees too.

The incentives are not there, as it is, they work as usual, and Valve is the one that has to make it work.

there will be incentives once windows becomes shit enough.

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Post by efreak »

wlesieutre wrote: post #300
BoxOfRain wrote: post #272

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Ironically I built a Linux box for mainly local models with some RGBs because I wanted tasteful accent lights to match the room, but my motherboard isn't supported by OpenRGB so they're stuck on either nothing or 'unicorn vomit' mode until some indefinite point in the future. This is the first time I've run into a stereotypically Linux issue in nearly a decade (on sane hardware) I think! Not a fan of those aquarium P…

Anyone know of a living successor to Silent PC Review? Was a great site back in the day but it shut down and got replaced with a marketing slop page. Great reviews back you could get cases with multi-layered sound deadening side panels instead of windows.

I never understood the giant focus on side windows. If you want to see your components while you're using your PC, why not just build inside a transparent case, or build on a workbench/open style (caseless)

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Post by efreak »

hedora wrote: post #255
tombert wrote: post #194

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Maybe the people who go hardcore like that, with the obnoxious PC cases, but there are lots of casual-to-less-casual gamers out there who will be happy enough with Bazzite. There’s a whole spectrum of PC gamers, and I think Linux+Proton can appeal to most of them. Let the people spending $10,000 on a glowing case make their own bad decisions.

FWIW: I have a pile of old Intel / NVIDIA machines that no longer boot Windows. They're all > 2GHz, > 8GB DRAM, and have more than enough horsepower to run modern casual titles. Next to that pile, I have a pile of games that no longer run under Windows. I also have a glowing case PC. Out of the box, it's possible to change the fan light color patterns from Linux. I had one problem putting Devuan on it: If you plug th…

> M$ removed the "shut down cleanly" button from the language chooser

Not sure what language chooser you're talking about here, but if you're trying to shutdown Windows without hybrid shutdown to access the uefi, there's two switches you can use with shutdown.exe: `shutdown /s /t 0` will perform a full shutdown without hibernating the system session (not hybrid shutdown, that can be done with another parameter). If you want to reboot into your UEFI menu, use `shutdown /r /fw /t 0`

I may be confusing the time parameter, it might be `/t now` and not `/t 0`; I usually use a dedicated command to reboot to UEFI via slickrun.

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Post by TheGRS »

I decided I'm going to take the plunge soon. I've used Windows for my personal computers for a long time (25 years? more if you count our family computers back in the day). I have only used linux desktops for little hobby projects, in Pis and VMs, and most of my experience has been headless servers. I loaded up Mint on a thumb drive pretty recently and it seemed like it would be good enough for running my steam games and VS Code. I'm actually liking the idea a lot because while I've been very happy with WSL, there is still a wee bit of friction developing locally with it, especially for game development stuff. And when developing its usually in the linux CLI anyway. Docker usually has some bumps too.

Thankfully I have my old PC still lying around and it'll play most of the games I like, so I'm gonna give it a spin soon and see if its the right fit for me. Maybe I can use a bot to help me document setup better than I have in the past too.

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Post by zamadatix »

destroycom wrote: post #294

Sadly, their "native" client is a web browser. Besides the usual complaints about electron and CEF applications, another pain point is they work horrendously in emulation. GoG Galaxy is only available as an x86 application on Windows. I'm running Windows ARM64 in a VM on an M-series macbook to play some games occasionally, and Galaxy is the slowest piece of software I have. Ironically, it runs worse than the games it…

I always thought it was a bit funny GoG GALAXY 2.0 went the web tech route for parts of the client and still managed to get itself stuck in a place where it ships an x86 only binary on macOS anyways.

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Post by Kuraj »

easyThrowaway wrote: post #17

Hopefully they'll somehow support Proton and Valve devices. Trying to run older windows-only games bought on GOG with launchers like Heroic is a bit of a hit or miss, despite the Steam releases of the same games having somehow a bigger chance of working out of the box. I guess there are some weird differences between the default Proton Runtime and the proton-ge/wine-ge builds.

It wouldn't make sense not to.

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Post by yetihehe »

keyringlight wrote: post #76
OrangeRange wrote: post #42

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Everyone in the linux world insists on fragmentation, though? It's a part of what makes it great and a mess at the same time. And what of it? Every time a for profit company uses open source they'll either create a closed fork, and if they can't they'll create closed source modules for it. I'm not saying it's bad to wish for companies to support FOSS, I'm just saying it's an unrealistic expectation to have.

The impression I've had for a long while now is that just as the software side is fragmented so is the userbase in what they want, including a segment that want one true way and all that fragmentation to go away. The trouble I see with catering to all that variation is it's putting an onus for more work on the developer (which needs funding from somewhere, most likely the publisher) and while linux (and GOG) is a nic…

> including a segment that want one true way and all that fragmentation to go away.

I think there are several segments that want one true way (their way).

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Post by 1718627440 »

1718627440 wrote: post #297
giancarlostoro wrote: post #250

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I also feel like this is an insane opportunity for companies who previously did not offer Linux native clients to start doing so and see some of a hike in sales specifically coming from the Linux crowd. I would absolutely pay good money for high quality Linux compatible software, after all, its not free as in free beer. I am still surprised most Linux Distros haven't changed their package managers to allow for sellin…

proprietary != commercial You can have free commercial software, and proprietary shareware, the opposites are oxymorons.

Thanks, for downvoting pointing to definitions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software

https://mako.cc/talks/20031106-nten/foil06.html

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.en.html

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