(I'm sure people will disagree with this, but Rust is also a horrible name but we're stuck with it. Nothing rusty is good, modern or reliable - it's just a bad name.)
OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again
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#272The current top HN post is for moltbook.com seven hours ago, this present thread being just below it and posted two hours hence We conclude this week has been a prosperous one for domain name registrars (even if we set aside all the new domains that Clawdbot/Moltbot/OpenClaw has registered autonomously).
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#273I tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t... Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately. Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/1…
I had the same problem. Ask Clawdbot to optimize token usage. It cut my usage in half.
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#275My biggest issue with this whole thing is: how do you protect yourself from prompt injection? Anyone installing this on their local machine is a little crazy :). I have it running in Docker on a small VPS, all locked down. However, it does not address prompt injection. I can see how tools like Dropbox, restricted GitHub access, etc., could all be used to back up data in case something goes wrong. It's Gmail and Calen…
You don't. YOLO!
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
A very small percentage of people know how to set up a cronjob. They can now combine cronjobs and LLMs with a single human sentence. This is huge for normies. Not so much if you already had strong development skills. EDIT: But you are correct in the assessment that people who don't know better will use it to do simple things that could be done millions of times more efficiently.. I made a chatbot at my company where…
Hmm. You know, building infrastructure to hook to some API or to dig through email or whatever-- it's a pain. And it's gotten harder. My old pile of procmail rules + spamassassin wouldn't work for the task anymore. Maintaining todos in text files has its high points and low points. And I have to be the person to notice patterns and do things myself. Having some kind of agent as an assistant to do stuff, and not havin…
If you are at all tech savvy, you can use n8n to set up a workflow that connects to all your data and provides an interface to talk to it..
This is the route I would recommend, and what everyone is using to build quick "AI Solutions" for businesses.
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#277I'm completely bike shedding, but I just want to say I highly approve. Moltbot was a truly horrible name, and I was afraid we were going to be stuck with it. (I'm sure people will disagree with this, but Rust is also a horrible name but we're stuck with it. Nothing rusty is good, modern or reliable - it's just a bad name.)
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#278I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…
I'll give it a shot. For me it's (promise) is about removing friction. Using the Unix philosophy of small tools, you can send text, voice, image, video to an LLM and (the magic I think) it maintains context over time. So memory is the big part of this. The next part that makes this compelling is the integration. Mind you, scary stuff, prompt injection, rogue commands, but (BIG BUT) once we figure this out it will pro…
It's like having 100 "naive/gullible people" who are good at some math/english but don't understand social context, all with your data available to anyone who requests it in the right way..
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#279I understand what this does. I don't get the hype, but there are obviously 1000s of people who do. Who are these people? What is the analog for this corner of the market? Context: I'm a 47y/o developer who has seen and done most of the common and not-so-common things in software development. This segment reminds me of the hoards of npm evangelists back in the day who lauded the idea that you could download packages t…
cost. the amount of things that before cost you either hours or real money went down to a chat with a few sentences. it makes it suddenly possibly to scale an (at least semi-) savy tech person without other humans and that much faster. this directly gives it a very tanglible value. the "market" might not be huge for this and yes, its mostly youtubers and influencers that "get this". Mainly because the work they do is…
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#280My biggest issue with this whole thing is: how do you protect yourself from prompt injection? Anyone installing this on their local machine is a little crazy :). I have it running in Docker on a small VPS, all locked down. However, it does not address prompt injection. I can see how tools like Dropbox, restricted GitHub access, etc., could all be used to back up data in case something goes wrong. It's Gmail and Calen…