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OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by baby »

voodooEntity wrote: post #39

So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

Its what everyone wanted to implement but didn’t have the time to. Just my 2cents.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by QuiCasseRien »

voodooEntity wrote: post #39

So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

> So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time.

easy to meter : 110k Github stars

:-O

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by jychang »

TZubiri wrote: post #45
eric-burel wrote: post #28

Before using make sure you read this entirely and understand it: https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/security Most important sentence: "Note: sandboxing is opt-in. If sandbox mode is off" Don't do that, turn sandbox on immediately. Otherwise you are just installing an LLM controlled RCE. There are still improvements to be made to the security aspects yet BIG KUDOS for working so hard on it at this stage and documenting…

It's typically used with external sandboxes. I wouldn't trust its internal sandbox anyway, now that would be a mistake

Yeah, keep it in a VM or a box you don't care about. If you're running it on your primary machine, you're a dumbass even if you turn on sandbox mode.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by calgoo »

3rodents wrote: post #48
bob1029 wrote: post #4

I would have stood my ground on the first name longer. Make these legal teams do some actual work to prove they are serious. Wait until you have no other option. A polite request is just that. You can happily ignore these. The 2nd name change is just inexcusable. It's hard to take a project seriously when a random asshole on Twitter can provoke a name change like this. Leads me to believe that identity is more import…

The first name and the second name were both terrible. Yes, the creator could have held firm on "clawd" and forced Anthropic to go through all the legal hoops but to what end? A trademark exists to protect from confusion and "clawd" is about as confusing as possible, as if confusing by design. Imagine telling someone about a great new AI project called "clawd" and trying to explain that it's not the Claude they are f…

Interesting, I dont read claude the same way as clawd, but I'm based in Spain so I tend to read it as French or Spanish. I tend to read it as `claud-e` with an emphasis on the e at the end. I would read clawd as `claw-d` with a emphasis in the D, but yes i guess American English would pronounce them the same way.

Edit: Just realized i have been reading and calling it after Jean-Claude Van Damme all this time. Happy friday!

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by egeozcan »

superfrank wrote: post #46
suddenlybananas wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Number of commits doesn't mean much.

I get what you're saying, but I don't totally agree. The number is sooo high that, while it isn't a perfect measure, I think it does mean something. If you go look at his code, nearly all of them are under 100 lines and I'd say close to half are under 10. So you're totally right that that number is way higher than what most other developers would have for a similar amount of code. At the same time, if we assume it ta…

I don't disagree with you but those commits could also be automated. Have a look at the projects like gastown.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by lode »

I tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t...

Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately.

Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/115968901926545907 - the author blew through $560 of tokens in a weekend of playing with it.

If you want to run this full time to organise your mailbox and your agenda, it's probably cheaper to hire a real human personal assistant.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by baxtr »

voodooEntity wrote: post #39

So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

I think large parts of the "actual intelligence" stems from two facts:

* The moltbots / openclaw bots seem to have "high agency", they actually do things on their own (at least so it seems)

* They interact with the real world like humans do: Through text on WhatsApp, reddit like forums

These 2 things make people feel very differently about them, even though it's "just" LLM generated text like on ChatGPT.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Post by hrpnk »

jychang wrote: post #64
TZubiri wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's typically used with external sandboxes. I wouldn't trust its internal sandbox anyway, now that would be a mistake

Yeah, keep it in a VM or a box you don't care about. If you're running it on your primary machine, you're a dumbass even if you turn on sandbox mode.

Cloudflare jumped on the hype and shipped a worker: https://blog.cloudflare.com/moltworker-self-hosted-ai-agent/ I guess that would be an easy and secure way to run it.

Now they have to rename again, though... [1]

[1] https://openclaw.ai/blog/introducing-openclaw

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