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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by nottorp »

trwired wrote: post #94
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #41

On the upside, this might mean I'll buy more stuff from GOG again. Steam+Proton is just so darn convenient .

This is one thing that's been puzzling for me ever since I switched to Linux full time a few years ago and so also started gaming on it. In my experience GOG bought games handled by Lutris/Heroic/Mini Galaxy trump Steam in convenience almost every time. There's been quite a few deal breaking issues with Steam client and/or Proton that went unaddressed by Valve for months that just never happened to me on the GOG+game…

> made certain UI elements not work on Linux

... and on Mac OS. For a while i had to play games with what control has focus to PAY them.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by KptMarchewa »

plqbfbv wrote: post #72
thrownawaysz wrote: post #53

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.

That's in the 50k EUR - 77k EUR range which is senior-level pay in EU. Add to that it includes pension, tax prepayments and health insurance. They also seem to offer lots of perks in the office. If you account for the fact that Poland is generally less expensive than the average and that the average monthly living cost is ~900 EUR ( https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?cou... ), even the 50k lower…

900 EUR might be enough for student-like living if you own the apartment you're living in, or by sharing a room when renting, but it's not even close to acceptable level in Warsaw.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by nottorp »

da_grift_shift wrote: post #9
bpye wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no DRM on GOG. https://www.gog.com/blog/what-exactly-is-drm-in-video-games-...

Yet the standalone offline installed games won't run without libgalaxy.dylib (Mac) or Galaxy64.dll (Windows) which is responsible for outbound connections to https://galaxy-log.gog.com and https://insights-collector.gog.com ? To be clear: if you buy Disco Elysium on GOG, download the "offline game installer" without using Galaxy, install it, and run the game on a desert island, it will work (the network requests fail…

> Why do Galaxy-free games ship with a mandatory dependency on Galaxy?

Because the developer linked the dynamic library in at compile time instead of writing additional code to load it at runtime and disabling/enabling features based on its presence.

You can call it budget limitations, incompetence or lack of respect for the customer. Doubt it's intentional DRM though.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by nottorp »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #53

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.

Their lattes also cost much less than a Silicon Valley latte :)

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by nialv7 »

orbital-decay wrote: post #109
emsign wrote: post #14

I'm very hopeful that Linux gaming will save the open PC desktop despite big tech is coming to destroy it. Or at least keep PCs alive for another decade. Gamers are still a huge factor as hardware customers. GOG creating a Linux launcher and Steam Box with SteamOS coming out soon should benefit PC users in general not just gamers since Microslop sees Windows like a social experiment where they can test AI on unsuspec…

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

If we care about the future of computing, the future of consumer rights, we need to MAKE THEM GIVE A SHIT.

Cory Doctorow is doing a very good job of that, but there is only one Cory Doctorow.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by ForHackernews »

There's some great Linux gaming distros out these days,

https://bazzite.gg/ is based on Fedora

and https://chimeraos.org/ is almost like SteamOS for non-Steam hardware. It ships a console-like UI on top of an immutable Arch base.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by deaux »

lifetimerubyist wrote: post #117
orbital-decay wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most gamers don't give a shit about openness. A much more likely outcome is "big tech" following the numbers and slowly making Linux unusable by using EEE or any other tactic under the pretense of usefulness.

Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever. The PC is an “open” platform in that you can buy and choose your own hardware. Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia, Seagate vs Western Digital, etc…. Using open software isn’t really more than a few steps from that. Being able to pick how your system works and customizing it to your liking is basically the software…

> Gamers generally game on PC because they like building their system. Otherwise they would use a PS5 Pro or whatever.

You're making a huge assumption here. I think that's a really small percentage. Most people game on PC because certain games they like to play are only on PC, or are much better suited to PC, or because their friends are on PC, or because they want to play on the go (Steam Deck is very recent and still not widely used), or because they need to have a PC anyway. Or because they grew up with it at home/in the neighborhood because there was no money for a console. Or because "Because they like building their system", I'm going to peg at <10%.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by justonceokay »

tmtvl wrote: post #105
EspadaV9 wrote: post #7

No. Please don't. Contribute to something like Heroic Launcher instead. Don't create something new just for GOG. Help make the existing tools better. It'll mean GOG has to do less work, and the programs people are already using will get better. Or even just sponsor Heroic so they can send more time we can working on it themselves.

GNU/Linux gamers are always decrying GOG, saying they won't buy stuff from them because Galaxy doesn't run on GNU/Linux, now we're getting people saying GOG porting Galaxy to GNU/Linux is bad!? By Taranis, GOG just can't get a break, can they?

GOG needs to contribute 0-day fixes to the kernel, otherwise they’re not committed to Linux /s
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