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OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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post #64

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Yeah, keep it in a VM or a box you don't care about. If you're running it on your primary machine, you're a dumbass even if you turn on sandbox mode.

The thing is running it onto your machine is kinda the point. These agents are meant to operate at the same level - and perhaps replace - your mail agent and file navigator. So if we sandbox too much we make it useless. The compromise being having separate folders for AI, a bit like having a Dropbox folder on your machine with some subfolders being personal, shared, readonly etc. Running terminal commands is usually…

> running it onto your machine is kinda the point.

That very much depends what you're using it for. If you're one of the overly advertised cases of someone who needs an ai to manage inbox, calendar and scheduling tasks, sure maybe that makes sense on your own machine if you aren't capable of setting up access on another one.

For anything else it has no need to be on your machine. Most things are cloud based these days, and granting read access to git repos, google docs, etc is trivial.

I really dont get the insane focus around 'your inbox' this whole thing has, that's perhaps the biggest waste of use you could have for a tool like this and an incredibly poor way of 'selling' it to people.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

#93
post #67

I tried it out yesterday, after reading the enthousiastic article at https://www.macstories.net/stories/clawdbot-showed-me-what-t... Setting it up was easy enough, but just as I was about to start linking it to some test accounts, I noticed I already had blown through about $5 of Claude tokens in half an hour, and deleted the VPS immediately. Then today I saw this follow up: https://mastodon.macstories.net/@viticci/1…

part of me sympathizes, but part of me also rolls my eyes. Am i the only one that’s configuring limits on spend and also alerts? Takes 2 seconds to configure a “project” in OpenAI or Claude and to scope an api key appropriately. Not doing so feels like asking for trouble.

not only that, but clawdbot/moltbot/openclaw/whatever they call themselves tomorrow/etc also tells you your token usage and how much you have left on your plan while you're using it (in the terminal/console). So this is pretty easily tracked...

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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It wasn't just one random asshole, tons of people were saying that "Moltbot" is a terrible name. (I agree, although I didn't tweet at him about it.) OpenClaw is a million times better.

Just curious, is there something specific about Moltbot that makes it a terrible name? Like any connotations or associations or something? Non-native speaker here, and I don't see anything particularly wrong with it that would warrant the hate it's gotten. (But I agree that OpenClaw _sounds_ better)

Go on twitter and search 'maltbot', 'moldbot', 'multbot', etc - the name was just awful and easy to get wrong as its meaningless. I think the crux of it is that 'Molt' isnt a very commonly used word for most people so it just feels weird and wrong.

OpenClaw just sounds better, it's got that opensource connotation and just generally feels like a real product not a weirdly named thing you'll forget about in 5 minutes because you cant remember the name.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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Which random asshole? Haven't heard about it.

I’m guessing they mean this, linked from the post: https://xcancel.com/NetworkChuck/status/2016254397496414317

That ones pretty mild, there were some unhinged posts around yesterday about the name.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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> Yes, the mascot is still a lobster. Some things are sacred.

I've been wondering a lot whether the strong Accelerando parallels are intentional or not, and whether Charlie Stross hates or loves this:

> The lobsters are not the sleek, strongly superhuman intelligences of pre singularity mythology: They're a dim-witted collective of huddling crustaceans.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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post #77

Will now OpenAI legal team reach them and ask to change? So what's next XClaw? Are they getting paid to change name?

Apparently he phoned Sam and got the ok. Which TBF wouldn't be hard, OpenAI absolutely would not be able to defend the use of 'Open' in the name.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

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So i feel like this might be the most overhyped project in the past longer time. I don't say it doesn't "work" or serves a purpose - but well i read so much about this beein an "actual intelligence" and stuff that i had to look into the source. As someone who spends actually a definately to big portion of his free time researching thought process replication and related topics in the realm of "AI" this is not really…

I've long said that the next big jump in "AI" will be proactivity.

So far everything has been reactive. You need to engage a prompt, you need to ask Siri or ask claude to do something. It can be very powerful once prompted, but it still requires prompting.

You always need to ask. Having something always waiting in the background that can proactively take actions and get your attention is a genuine game-changer.

Whether this particular project delivers on that promise I don't know, but I wouldn't write off "getting proactivity right" as the next big thing just because under the hood it's agents and LLMs.

Re: OpenClaw – Moltbot Renamed Again

#100

Right now I'm just thinking about all the molt* domains..... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think (not really sure) there's still a 5 day grace period when you buy domains, at least for gTLDs.

Technically there is, it's mostly used by the worst domain registrars that nobody should be using, like GoDaddy to pre-register names you search for so you can't go and register it elsewhere.

Most registrars don't allow, nor have the infrastructure in place to let you cancel within the 5 day grace period so don't offer it and instead just have a line buried in their TOS to say you agree its not something they offer.

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