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Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Springtime wrote: post #37
gamesieve wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Galaxy can be required for multiplayer aspects in games, but if what you say is true for the singleplayer part of the game, GOG will consider it a bug, and will get it fixed. There's nothing in the Crime Cities GOG forum about this, nor in the various tracking threads in the main forum, and generally GOG users are extremely sensitive about anything which even reeks of forcing Galaxy, so I'd strongly expect any issue…

I think too it can be misleading since on Windows the default LNK shortcut that is created after the game installation launches Galaxy with arguments instead of being a path to the direct game EXE (which works entirely without Galaxy and how I run games). They do this to push Galaxy for convenience I suppose as most are used to clients that handle updates but it can be confusing if some wonder why for instance their…

> on Windows the default LNK shortcut that is created after the game installation launches Galaxy with arguments instead of being a path to the direct game EXE

I think they've recently changed this.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by johnnyanmac »

delaminator wrote: post #36

I always make sure to not use the GoG downloader just download the game. I don't need a client with your branding all over it, that has socials and my library and all engagement bait like that. I figure it's one step away from putting the DRM back on so you have to use the launcher to get a game from GOG. Just let me buy games and then shut up.

Like it or not, a lot of people love a virtualization of their library. So the option is nice.

I like GOG's launcher because 1) it's open source and 2) it can show other gamijg libraries thanks to fan maintained plugins. Those aspects give me a sense that the goal here (outside of to lower the friction into GOG's store) is indeed to serve the user

And if that changes, it's easy to take my ball and go home. GOG trying to push hard on any DRM is basically them surrendering to Steam.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by RamRodification »

delaminator wrote: post #36

I always make sure to not use the GoG downloader just download the game. I don't need a client with your branding all over it, that has socials and my library and all engagement bait like that. I figure it's one step away from putting the DRM back on so you have to use the launcher to get a game from GOG. Just let me buy games and then shut up.

Can we not allow them to continue letting you buy games (outside the launcher) and not shut up?

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by mikkupikku »

bravetraveler wrote: post #24
gamesieve wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not creating something new. They're taking their existing tool (which - for all its flaws - is still far ahead of Heroic in many ways), improving it further, and changing it to also work on Linux. If they then go add additional features like wine integration to that tool to make it overlap more with Heroic is something we're all assuming, but not actually a given.

A lot of words for "yes they will insist on fragmentation"

Fragmentation is a good thing, it's called competition, and user choice. If you don't like it, buy a Mac or something.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by fragmede »

pjc50 wrote: post #46
alex_duf wrote: post #28

A lot of hate in the comments, I think it's great that companies are in a position where they think it makes sense financially to support Linux as a target platform.

I think this is a good lesson in why companies don't try to bring stuff to Linux: the market is incredibly resentful of products.

Companies? gasp corporations? Using, spit, money? HOW DARE THEY!

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by PurpleRamen »

krige wrote: post #10
bpye wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no DRM on GOG. https://www.gog.com/blog/what-exactly-is-drm-in-video-games-...

Last I checked, there is loads of DRM on GOG and most of the games that have it, force you to use Galaxy.

Depending on the launcher does not imply DRM. It could be a features-dependency to make the old games working or just allow certain features.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by johnnyanmac »

kaoD wrote: post #35
alex_duf wrote: post #28

A lot of hate in the comments, I think it's great that companies are in a position where they think it makes sense financially to support Linux as a target platform.

They're just trying to ride the wave of Valve's deck (and they will fail). The fact is that, since I bought the Steam Deck, I bought less from GOG and more from Valve. And this won't change a thing: it doesn't matter if they make a Linux-native frontend to the horrible GOG Galaxy. I just want my games to launch as seamlessly as they do from Valve's UI, not yet another launcher that I have to launch on top of Valve's…

>I just want my games to launch as seamlessly as they do from Valve's UI

Valve integrated steam all the way down to the OS level to do all that. GOG galaxy meanwhile is focusing more on being an accompanying app to optionally use than centralizing everything under GOG. I think Galaxy trying to strive to be as "seamless" will break the very philosophy of GOG to begin with; being a store to grab games you truly own, not a platform to immerse yourself in.

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by fragmede »

Borealid wrote: post #65
elsjaako wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we have DRM with some private key, then I guess your idea is I download the game files and some private key and that allows me to run the game. If I can send you the private key and the game and it allows you to run the game with no further inputs, then the DRM is trivially broken (even without open source). If it does some online check, then if the source is open we can easily make a version that bypasses the onl…

How would you define it if: - the DRM/delivery software is open source - the game payload is sent to you encrypted using the public key of a secure enclave on your computer - while the game runs all its memory is symmetrically encrypted (by your own CPU) using a key private to that secure enclave. It is only decrypted in the CPU's cache lines, which are flushed when the core runs anything other than the game (even OS…

Thank goodness!

Re: GOG: Linux "the next major frontier" for gaming as it works on a native client

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Post by rnhmjoj »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #53

>Competitive Salary – We ensure fair and attractive compensation that reflects your skills and experience: 18 000 - 27 000 PLN/month I know it's eastern Europe but that's $5000-7500 a month, barely $90k a year. It sounds like a solo job too so a lot of responsibility for this salary.

Barely? It's more than twice the mediage wage in Poland.
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