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Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by wisemang »

wewewedxfgdf wrote: post #19

Oatmeal is food of the gods - BUT only if you don't pollute is with all sorts of add ons. Oatmeal and milk, nothing more. No fruit no nuts no sugar no honey no sprinkles of whatever. Perfect.

Bah. I love putting a layer of frozen blueberries at the bottom of the bowl then layering on piping hot steel cut oats to thaw and warm them up. You’re probably right that I shouldn’t add dried cranberries and a tiny drizzle of maple syrup on top (occasionally with thinly sliced bananas) but I’m happy enough to be wrong about it. I also skip the milk.

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Post by wwwtyro »

My understanding is that:

1. When someone consumes fat, bile is released into the gut.

2. Oatmeal (and other soluble fibers like psyllium husk) capture this bile and it is excreted in stool.

3. In order to create the bile, the liver needs LDL. Because the LDL it used to create the bile was lost when it was captured, it exposes more LDL receptors and pulls LDL out of the bloodstream, thereby lowering LDL levels.

It seems to me that in order to maximize the effectiveness of this LDL-lowering approach, one must not simply consume psyllium or oatmeal, but rather consume them in conjunction with fat. Not saturated fat, obviously, which raises LDL, but perhaps unsaturated or polyunsaturated fats. My expectation is that this would trigger the bile secretion required in order to actually sequester it.

Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by wgjordan »

It's well known that an oatmeal diet lowers cholesterol (the article itself cites a 1907 'oat cure' in its intro). The new finding here is insight into the exact mechanism- a short-term, high-dose oatmeal diet (300g/day for two days) had significantly greater LDL-lowering effect than a medium-term, moderate-dose oatmeal diet (80g/day for six weeks), and they associated the difference with increases in several plasma phenolic compounds triggered by specific changes in the gut microbiome.

Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by throwaway173738 »

roxolotl wrote: post #5
ProAm wrote: post #2

This isn't news it's be known for decades?

Yea it’s on the oatmeal boxes even. Part of what’s interesting about this study though is they claim this two day intensive(300g per day) oatmeal diet showed microbiome changes which persist for months.

Yeah for reference 54 grams is about 200 kcal, so this is 1200 kcal or so of just oats. That leaves 600-800 kcal for other food if you’re targeting 1800-2000 kcal/day which is a reasonable calorie restriction. So this isn’t really a sustainable diet in the long term.

Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by throwaway173738 »

fellowniusmonk wrote: post #18
roxolotl wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea it’s on the oatmeal boxes even. Part of what’s interesting about this study though is they claim this two day intensive(300g per day) oatmeal diet showed microbiome changes which persist for months.

Oatmeal is fine, but has nothing on hulled barley. Oats are for horses. Mankind basically co-evolved with Barley.

Hulled barley gives me the worst stomach ache of my life. I’m a horse I guess.

Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by brandon272 »

ksherlock wrote: post #20
zdw wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

300g of oatmeal is about 3.3 cups (US measure). I would consider a normal bowl of oatmeal for breakfast to be about half a cup, so this is quite a bit more.

Yeah... a large (1" tall) canister of oatmeal is 1.2kg so imagine eating 2 big ass cans of oatmeal a week.

I think you are mixing up oats and oatmeal. And I think (but am not positive) that the study is referring to 300g of prepared oatmeal.

Re: Two days of oatmeal reduce cholesterol level

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Post by mikestorrent »

blinded wrote: post #39

Been trying to get into overnight oats (home made) for breakfast but its been hard to hit protein numbers, even with protein powder.

The study is suggesting two days of intense oats. You can go totally without protein for two days and barely notice it as long as you're keeping yourself full, and a big pile of oats does a surprisingly good job of that.
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