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CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by PearlRiver »

direwolf20 wrote: post #67
BiscuitBadger wrote: post #24

There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case. I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. I keep thinking back about that Chernobyl miniseries; head of the science department used to run a shoe factory. No one needs to be competent at their job anymore

They say that most fascist governments fall apart because they actively despise competence, which it turns out you need if you are trying to run a country.

Competence gives way to ideology.

I once read an interesting book on the economy of Nazi Germany. There were a lot of smart CEOs and high ranking civil servants who perfectly predicted US industrial might.

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Post by macintux »

dboreham wrote: post #78
nostrademons wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow I think that the weak link in our government security is at the top - the President, his cabinet, and various heads of agencies. Because nobody questions what they're allowed to do, and so they're exempt from various common-sense security protocols. We already saw some pretty egregious security breaches from Pete Hegseth.

It goes back long before the current regime. People may remember a certain cabinet secretary who ran her own exchange server in the basement.

It’s always fascinating how massive corruption is “whatabout”’d because someone years ago did something stupid.

Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by bena »

direwolf20 wrote: post #67
BiscuitBadger wrote: post #24

There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case. I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. I keep thinking back about that Chernobyl miniseries; head of the science department used to run a shoe factory. No one needs to be competent at their job anymore

They say that most fascist governments fall apart because they actively despise competence, which it turns out you need if you are trying to run a country.

That’s because eventually reality catches up to you.

If the reality of a thing is in opposition to the regime’s wishes, you can’t just wish that away.

However, the regime will favor those who say “yes” over those who accept reality.

Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by NoGravitas »

lysace wrote: post #76
NoGravitas wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's also the case in businesses. No one denies the CEO a security exemption.

I have never worked in a company where an obviously incorrect CEO-demanded security exemption (like this one) would have been allowed to pass. Professionalism, boards (with a mandatory employee member/representative, after some size) and ethics exist. 30 years in about 8 software companies, Northern Europe. Often startups. Between 4 to 600 people. When they grow large the work often turns boring, so it's time to find…

Ah, Northern Europe is probably the difference. This passes all the time in the US. It's probably more common in non-tech companies, as well.

Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by acdha »

stronglikedan wrote: post #44
JohnMakin wrote: post #5

This administration's op-sec has been consistently "barney fife" levels of incompetence.

It's been the same with every administration, unfortunately. It's just a side effect of such an unnecessarily big goverment.

You have to actively maintain a state of ignorance to say this isn’t different. Go look at all of the public reporting starting in January about the way appointees in the Pentagon, DOGE, etc. blew through the normal policies and procedures controlling access, clearing people, or restricting sharing.

For example, this wasn’t just “oops, I used the wrong number” but Hegseth getting a custom line run into a secure facility so he could use a personal computer of unknown provenance and security:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/24/us/politics/hegseth-signa...

That’s one of the reasons why one of the first moves they made was to fire CISOs and the inspectors general who would normally be investigating serious policy violations.

This isn’t “big government”, it’s the attitude that the law is a tool used to hurt their opponents and help themselves but never the reverse.

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Post by te_chris »

BiscuitBadger wrote: post #24

There have to be GovCloud only LLMs just for this case. I swear this government is headed by appointed nephews of appointed nephews. I keep thinking back about that Chernobyl miniseries; head of the science department used to run a shoe factory. No one needs to be competent at their job anymore

The failsons of the king of the failsons

Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #77
shrubble wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then again the CTO of Crowdstrike that had their anti-malware code update cause huge problems, is the same guy that was CTO of McAfee when their AV code update, caused huge problems.

The CTO created the update? Otherwise it's not the same situation

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Re: CISA’s acting head uploaded sensitive files into public version of ChatGPT

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

JohnMakin wrote: post #15
mcs5280 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure that's a feature, not a bug

Personally I believe this but it gets into conspiracy theory real quick. There are far simpler explanations.

The simpler explanation is that all the competent people saw what happened the first go around and want nothing to do with it. That leaves a detritus of sociopathic wannabes to select from for staff, all vying to mirror the behavioral profile of dear leader.

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Post by codezero »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #69
stackghost wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I have held a security clearance during my career, and telling them I smoked weed was not a dealbreaker. What they are ultimately looking for is reasons why you could be coerced into divulging classified information. If you owe money due to drugs/gambling, etc, that's where it becomes a dealbreaker.

wait, so I can apply and be honest? Sick! I just poorly misassumed they had classicly archaic interpretations of drugs.

I don’t have a clearance so someone can correct me, I believe you still have to have not used drugs in the prior year.
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