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Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Post by spacebanana7 »

pavlov wrote: post #232
supernes wrote: post #210

How long until they make the argument that they're entitled to 30% of your salary because you use Apple hardware to do your work?

They must be looking at the revenue Claude Code is making on Mac and thinking “Why aren’t we getting 30% of that?” Wouldn’t be surprised if macOS starts locking down CLI tools towards an App Store model too.

Developers are a tricky market for this because they could realistically move to different platforms if stuff like this started to happen. Or at least work on remote machines.

If gaming on Macs ever became popular though this would be a real risk.

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Post by baby »

mhitza wrote: post #203

Just stop publishing the app, not every little thing needs an app. What the use for the app anyway? Notifications and apple pay?

Hard agree. I hate it when a website force me to get an app now. I feel like websites have matched apps in terms of feel-good on mobile that I don’t really use apps anymore

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Post by 936966931646863 »

leokennis wrote: post #242
ethanrutherford wrote: post #23

Always hated apple for their putrid business practices. Add this to the pile.

Apple making sure to stay in lock step with the US' general decline into late stage capitalist decline.

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Post by grishka »

iknowstuff wrote: post #234
mhitza wrote: post #203

Just stop publishing the app, not every little thing needs an app. What the use for the app anyway? Notifications and apple pay?

Apps are more sticky. Users forget about websites more easily

It's highly unlikely for someone to use the internet in 2020s but be unaware that Patreon is a thing.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

alibarber wrote: post #247
lostlogin wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hilarious how this is more than my tax rate. My tax rate gets education, healthcare, policing, etc etc.

Feels more like a sales tax (VAT) though, which is the same for everyone.

Exactly, not even a progressive tax!

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Post by pipo234 »

jinzo wrote: post #243
mhitza wrote: post #203

Just stop publishing the app, not every little thing needs an app. What the use for the app anyway? Notifications and apple pay?

I'm running a small service, sub 150 users, no online signup kind of business, B2B. Small EU country. 95% of users ask 'do you have an mobile app?' in first 5 minutes of onboarding. Telling them how to install a PWA (and what it is and so forth) is an uphill battle. Unfortunately App Stores rule the non technical crowd.

To many users, an app seems to be perceived as the blessed way to access the web. While on a mobile, they are mostly a way to organize symlinks or bookmarks. Except, off course a web browser does its best to protect the user while most apps don't.

Meanwhile I continue doing the Lords work by telling kids that apps are not the internet. Hopefully, that 95% percentage will eventually decrease.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

jinzo wrote: post #243
mhitza wrote: post #203

Just stop publishing the app, not every little thing needs an app. What the use for the app anyway? Notifications and apple pay?

I'm running a small service, sub 150 users, no online signup kind of business, B2B. Small EU country. 95% of users ask 'do you have an mobile app?' in first 5 minutes of onboarding. Telling them how to install a PWA (and what it is and so forth) is an uphill battle. Unfortunately App Stores rule the non technical crowd.

There may be a time where we have to push back, though, and this may be it. "There is no app" may sound terrifying now, but once we've educated users, it will only get less scary, until we might actually claim back some ownership of our own stuff from the likes of Apple.

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Post by digitalPhonix »

AdamN wrote: post #198
digitalPhonix wrote: post #171

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Which banks do you use? I’m looking to switch away from Chase (which does this). It’s a surprisingly hard thing to search for online…

They're all going to move that way - it's sort of fundamental to PassKey. It can be done with just a laptop and their built in hardware but I suspect that since everybody has a mobile phone the UX will be built around that more often than not. I quite like it though. At one of my banks I don't even use a password. My browser has the right material (from a prior authn) and then it pushes a validation request to my pho…

> then it pushes a validation request to my phone and with FaceID I'm in.

That’s exactly what I don’t want though. I don’t want to be tied to a bank app that requires a non-rooted device/whatever other checks it does.

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