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Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Why would anyone use Patreon’s app?

What a weird comment lol. You can write a bot asking "why would anyone use (the product mentioned in title)" to every HN thread. That's how much it contributes to the discussion.

HN is becoming more and more like Stackoverflow. Half the comments pretend this is not an issue or irrelevant and the other half posts hasty, incorrect solutions.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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Some countries still charge for SMS. That's why WhatsApp is so popular in many places of the world.

No way really .. amazing in 2026 if true

There's basically two mobile worlds in India. The middle class has mobile plans basically like the rest of the world, while the poor (especially the rural poor but also to some extent the urban poor) have a pay-per-use account that also functions as their bank. So sending a text might cost 2 rupees, and an MMS might cost 6.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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If their app didn’t exist on iOS, would it be weird/embarrassing for Apple? That’s what “popular” means, in this context. That’s how they make their decisions.

I feel like it would definitely be weird. But Patreon does have a web version but I am not sure how many people prefer web sites in Apple ecosystem especially on Ios so I do find the whole thing to be a bit weird because this ~30% cut essentially seems to rip off of creators in some sense.

I follow a number of creators on Patreon and have never once thought I want/need a Patreon app.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

#206

I think I’m old enough to have experienced this cycle so many times with so many businesses that I just feel kind of silly to hate on Apple or Microsoft or whoever. They’re all just maximizing profits as designed. I think people find it easier to scowl at the villain du jour than to dig into the deep complex issue of when capitalism doesn’t work, when the government isn’t doing enough, and what we could do about it……

I'd rather they garner a few dollars this way than look to actually shady monetization practices, like most other big tech companies do.

Not a bit deal really, a tiny minority of people will be a few dollars out of pocket, because the loophole most of us don't enjoy has been closed.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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I want them to use antitrust regulation against everyone, including me. That's what having values is like. Markets without competition degenerate. Markets are also artificial and always rely on government enforcement to exist - Apple sues people who try to get around its market manipulation. You just prefer that governments help enforce trusts and destroy competition that those trusts denote as unfair.

> Markets are also artificial and always rely on government enforcement to exist - Apple sues people who try to get around its market manipulation. Historically, markets are destroyed by government interference, not propped up by it. Your own example is a case in point: were it not for the government making laws in favor of entrenched companies, Apple couldn't sue the people trying to get around its market manipulati…

Apple doesn't _need_ to sue people. They can just stop distributing their apps.

That's it. No "government monopoly" or anything, just regular commercial monopolism.

Re: Apple to soon take up to 30% cut from all Patreon creators in iOS app

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What are you going to do about it? Use Android?

Me? I'm working to help people get elected to Congress to help regulate this mess.

There is so much stuff that needs to get fixed in congress over this issue is even a blip on the radar.
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