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Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by kurtis_reed »

manmal wrote: post #82
ed wrote: post #20

A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while?

- Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages. - Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nick…

Who's Peter?

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by biddit »

manmal wrote: post #82
ed wrote: post #20

A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while?

- Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages. - Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nick…

Yes!

pi is the best-architected harness available. You can do anything with it.

The creator, Mario, is a voice of reason in the codegen field too.

https://shittycodingagent.ai/

https://mariozechner.at/posts/2025-11-30-pi-coding-agent/

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by esskay »

hirako2000 wrote: post #116
Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I run it in an LXC container which is hosted on a proxmox server, which is an Intel i7 NUC. Running 24x7. The container contains all the tools it needs. No need to worry about security, unless you consider container breakout a concern. I wouldn't run it in my personal laptop.

But then what's the purpose of the bot? I already found limited use for it, but for what it could be useful would need access to emails, calendar. It says it right on the landing page: schedule meetings, check-in for your flight etc..

I've got a similar setup (VM on unraid). For me it's only doing a few light tasks, but I have only had it running for ~48hrs. I dont do any of the calendar/inbox stuff and wouldnt trust it to have access to my personal inbox or my own files.

- Sends me a morning email containing the headlines of the news sources I tend to check

- Has access to a shared dir on my nas where it can read/write files to give to me. I'm using this to get it to do markdown based writing plans (not full articles, just planning structures of documents and providing notes on things to cover)

- Has a cron that runs overnight to log into a free ahrefs account in a browser and check for changes to keywords and my competitor monitoring (so if a competitor publishes a new article, it lets me know about it)

- Finds posts I should probably respond to on Twitter and Bluesky when people mention a my brand, or a topic relating to it that would be potentially relevant to be to jump into (I do not get it to post for me).

That's it so far and to be honest is probably all I'll use it for. Like I say, wouldn't trust it with access to my own accounts.

People are also ignoring the running costs. It's not cheap. You can very quickly eat through $200+ of credits with it in a couple of hours if you get something wrong.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by paxys »

rahimnathwani wrote: post #68
achillean wrote: post #4

Already seeing some of the new Moltbot deployments exposed to the Internet: https://www.shodan.io/search/report?query=http.favicon.hash%...

Maybe those folks buying Mac Minis to host at home weren't so silly after all. The exposed ones are almost all hosted on VPSs which, by design, have publicly-routable IP addresses. But anyway I think connecting to a Clawdbot instance requires pairing unless you're coming from localhost: https://docs.molt.bot/start/pairing

The silly part is buying a $600 Mac mini when any $100 NUC or $50 raspberry pi or any cheap mini PC off of eBay will do the job exactly the same.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by jug »

smeej wrote: post #69

When I first saw this, my thought was, "Wow, I'm surprised Anthropic hasn't pushed back on their calling it that. They must not know about it yet." Glad to know my own internal prediction engine still works.

Surprised they didn't just try Clawbot first. I can see the case against "Clawd" (I mean; seriously...) but claws are a different matter IMHO, with that mascot and all.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by ndriscoll »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #109
Dylan16807 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly infringing on what? Do they have "leggo my eggo" itself trademarked? And is it really reasonable to think there's consumer confusion between a waffle and an egg roll that isn't using the word "eggo"? I would say they're clearly not infringing on any plain "eggo" trademark.

Go find a picture of the truck. The entire business is branded like Eggo waffles. The colors used, the font and stylistic “E” are the same, the white outlining of red letters on a yellow field is copied. It isn’t just the name and phrase, the entire brand is copied over. I’m not making a judgment on the morality of the law. But under the law itself, I can completely understand how Kellog’s has a strong claim here

The stylistic 'E' actually looks nothing alike if you look at the picture in the complaint linked elsewhere in the thread[0]. Just about the only similarity is that it's vaguely cursive red with white outline. The 'E' is probably the most obviously different part.

It's immediately obvious to anyone with a functioning brain that it's a parody, so only a corporate lawyer could be so dishonest as to write that it's "likely to deceive and cause confusion, mistake, or deception among consumers or potential consumers as to the source of origin of Defendant’s goods and services and the sponsorship or endorsement of those goods and services by Kellogg". Their truck screams "this does not follow modern 'corporate' branding/style guides, so is obviously not approved or associated with a multinational company like Kellogg."

Quite interesting to see the product placement examples in the document though as evidence their "renown".

[0] https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ohnd.31...

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by rahimnathwani »

paxys wrote: post #124
rahimnathwani wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe those folks buying Mac Minis to host at home weren't so silly after all. The exposed ones are almost all hosted on VPSs which, by design, have publicly-routable IP addresses. But anyway I think connecting to a Clawdbot instance requires pairing unless you're coming from localhost: https://docs.molt.bot/start/pairing

The silly part is buying a $600 Mac mini when any $100 NUC or $50 raspberry pi or any cheap mini PC off of eBay will do the job exactly the same.

If you want iMessage you still need an always-on Mac, whether that's the main moltbot gateway, or the MacOS app running in 'node mode' to allow a moltbot gateway to use it to send/receive iMessages.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by piffey »

manmal wrote: post #82
ed wrote: post #20

A bit OT but why is moltbot so much more popular than the many personal agents that have been around for a while?

- Peter has spent the last year building up a large assortment of CLIs to integrate with. He‘s also a VERY good iOS and macOS engineer so he single handedly gave clawd capabilities like controlling macOS and writing iMessages. - Leaning heavily on the SOUL.md makes the agents way funnier to interact with. Early clawdbot had me laugh to tears a couple times, with its self-deprecating humor and threatening to play Nick…

I've been really curious about pi and have been following it but haven't seen a reason to switch yet outside anecdotes. What makes it a better daily driver out of the box compared to Claude or Codex? What did you end up needing to add to get your workflow to be "now capable to write its own extensions"? Just trying to see what the benefit would be if I hop into a new tool.

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by buu700 »

smeej wrote: post #69

When I first saw this, my thought was, "Wow, I'm surprised Anthropic hasn't pushed back on their calling it that. They must not know about it yet." Glad to know my own internal prediction engine still works.

I called this outcome the second I saw the title of the post the other day. Granted, I have some experience in that area, as someone who once upon a time had the brilliant idea to launch a product on HN called "Napster.fm".

Re: Clawdbot Renames to Moltbot

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Post by achillean »

swah wrote: post #114
achillean wrote: post #4

Already seeing some of the new Moltbot deployments exposed to the Internet: https://www.shodan.io/search/report?query=http.favicon.hash%...

Wasn't aware about this favicon trick, nice :)

FYI we released a tool to calculate a bunch of these types of hashes: https://book.shodan.io/command-line-tools/shodan-hash/

More info about the favicon hashing technique: https://blog.shodan.io/deep-dive-http-favicon/

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