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Scientists identify brain waves that define the limits of 'you'

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Like the large scale, nearly speed-of-light continuous electrical field fluctuations that influence long-distance discrete neural firing and may be the basis for conscious experience? Curses!

It's cursed in the sense that every spiritual grifter loves to mention it.

May quantum be upon you!

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Some years ago I played a car game with Virtual Reality (VR). I noticed that it felt like the car was a part of me. I wonder if the brain can experience if clothing, tools, bikes are part of the body?

Some overlap with ideas of Marshall McLuhan. Media as extensions of man.

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Some years ago I played a car game with Virtual Reality (VR). I noticed that it felt like the car was a part of me. I wonder if the brain can experience if clothing, tools, bikes are part of the body?

Yes. I think the concept you’re describing is proprioception: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

Proprioception could be the basis for a thinking man's version of the sci-fi trope "exchanging bodies".

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A cell phone vibrating in your pocket: in the first days, after some days of use, many people would feel it vibrating as a muscle sensation, not as external thing vibrating.

I experience "having something in the copy/paste buffer" as a distinct sensation in my Ctrl-V hand.

Itchy Trigger Finger: Cyber Edition

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I once read “The Joy of Living” by Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche. It should come with a warning. It broke me for a year. I’m actually grateful for the existential crisis it caused me. But it was a brutal experience at first.

Can you share a bit more? Should more read the book to get the same powerful benefit you received or stay away from the book?

I would recommend the book.

Sharing more: It shattered my prior beliefs about who "I" thought I was. When I read certain passages from the book, I knew it was true. It hurt my ego because it was undeniable. My old belief system was floored. My ideas about myself and others was insufficient. That shattered "me".

In many ways, it probably just helped me to be more compassionate and accepting of my situation and that of others. You cannot really put a price on wisdom like that and I guess for some people, getting to that point doesn't come without collateral ?

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I once read “The Joy of Living” by Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche. It should come with a warning. It broke me for a year. I’m actually grateful for the existential crisis it caused me. But it was a brutal experience at first.

I had a similar experience with Derek Parfit's "Reasons and Persons", but he offers some solace: ‘When I believed [that personal identity is what matters], I seemed imprisoned in myself. My life seemed like a glass tunnel, through which I was moving faster every year, and at the end of which there was darkness. When I changed my view, the walls of my glass tunnel disappeared. I now live in the open air. There is stil…

I would say this is very relatable. Thanks for sharing. I might read that!

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I once read “The Joy of Living” by Yongey Mingyur Rinpoche. It should come with a warning. It broke me for a year. I’m actually grateful for the existential crisis it caused me. But it was a brutal experience at first.

OK so... what warning should it have had that would've prepared you for it?

"Eastern philosophy can be confronting for those that have not been exposed to it and that meditation isn't jut by default healthy for everyone. Before proceeding, especially if you're prone to any kind of mental illness, make sure you have a strong support network around you before proceeding" ?

Maybe there was some warning in the book, but I was young and keen enough that I would've just heeded that.

Even the author of the books father is a renowned meditation teacher, I'm sure that was helpful.

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OK so... what warning should it have had that would've prepared you for it?

I read it last year, enjoyed the book, no existential crisis. I already subscribed to the idea of the self and identity being independent and constructs. A lot of reflection around that and physics in younger years maybe helped.

I could imagine how your prior experienced helped.

Some knowledge of physics would help for sure. From memory, there is some mention of psychics it in the book?

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