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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by gryzzly »

pjc50 wrote: post #249
dominicrose wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.

> civilians aren't the target in Gaza "We killed about 80,000 people by mistake" isn't the exculpation you think it is.

No one who is sane is saying that. IDF is saying – we killed 40.000 combatants who were hiding in ciivilan infrastructure, so unfortunately 1:1 civilian deaths happened, becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by pantalaimon »

freitasm wrote: post #78
Thaxll wrote: post #53

But hey, help is coming.

Narrator's voice: "Unfortunatelly, they will be waiting forever, becase that help will never come."

looks like it hasn't moved in a bit

https://www.cruisingearth.com/ship-tracker/united-states-nav...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by gryzzly »

igravious wrote: post #251
dominicrose wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a lot of death in 2 days but the revolution started about a month ago so it's not just those two days. I think you could compare Gaza to a single Iranian city, but Iran is much larger than this. Another important distinction is that - no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza, but they clearly are the target in Iran. If the civilians had weapons, it would be a different story.

> no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza “By December 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 70,117 people in Gaza had been killed. The vast majority of the victims were civilians, and around 50% were women and children. Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are among the hi…

wikipedia has been hijacked to present one-sided view of the conflict

https://www.timesofisrael.com/edit-wars-over-israel-spur-rar... https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comments/1pvs1b6/as_a_wikipe...

Problem even discussed and acknowledged by Jimmy Wales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_aQWaxOTE

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by gryzzly »

gryzzly wrote: post #274
igravious wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> no matter what your beliefs are - civilians aren't the target in Gaza “By December 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 70,117 people in Gaza had been killed. The vast majority of the victims were civilians, and around 50% were women and children. Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are among the hi…

wikipedia has been hijacked to present one-sided view of the conflict https://www.timesofisrael.com/edit-wars-over-israel-spur-rar... https://www.reddit.com/r/Jewish/comments/1pvs1b6/as_a_wikipe... Problem even discussed and acknowledged by Jimmy Wales: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U_aQWaxOTE

https://www.piratewires.com/p/how-wikipedia-s-pro-hamas-edit...

https://www.inss.org.il/publication/wikipedia/

https://jewishjournal.com/cover_story/380074/gaming-the-wiki...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by inglor_cz »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #82
bawolff wrote: post #29

That's crazy. That's like ~40% of the deaths in the current gaza war, except over just 2 days instead of 2 years.

I can’t even imagine how this could be done. Nazi concentration camps would have had trouble killing that many in 2 days.

They wouldn't struggle, even before the gassing systems were built. In Babiy Jar (September 1941), about 33 thousand Jews from Kyiv were shot in two days by SS Einsatztruppen.

This is about what dedicated murderous goverments can pull off using conventional means.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by inglor_cz »

jdthedisciple wrote: post #221

Just leaving this here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

I never understood why some people get so fixated on one event in 1953, as if nothing else mattered after that.

Sure, it had a nontrivial effect. But it also happened in a time when Stalin and Churchill were still alive, there were 6 billion people fewer on the planet and the first antibiotics and transistors barely entered production. Korea was poorer than Ghana etc.

It is 2026, three generations have passed, and not everything can be explained and excused by a 1953 event forever. But it is convenient for autocracy advocates in general.

It reminds me of the worship of the Great Patriotic War in Russia. Again, as if nothing that happened later matters.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by squidbeak »

vogre wrote: post #222
alexmonami wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are other sources, like this: https://time.com/7357635/more-than-30000-killed-in-iran-say-...

Which also refer to unnamed sources and "U.S.-based Human Rights Activists News Agency"(read CIA)

Why lie about this when the first paragraph is explicit about its source?

> As many as 30,000 people could have been killed in the streets of Iran on Jan. 8 and 9 alone, two senior officials of the country’s Ministry of Health told TIME

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