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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by potsandpans »

TSiege wrote: post #354
storus wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again prioritizing low cardinality event (stalking) instead of high cardinality event (theft) because of "security", making the device mostly pointless, good only to quickly locate some thing at home (assuming battery still holds after the thing being forgotten for years in a closet).

A train is barreling down the tracks while you stand at a switch. Do nothing and the train will destroy dozens of bicycles. If you pull the switch the train will kill one woman you've never met. You sure you still wanna pull that switch?

How many people's lives in third world countries were ruined making that train?

And I know, I know, the downvoterinos!

I don't actually care about this issue at all. The observation is: that moral grandstanding of "woman's lives to stolen bicycles" is somewhat amusing when the hardware is built on the backs of underpaid people in the global south. All so people can have little toys of convenience.

It's likely that Apple doesn't care about woman's lives either, for what it's worth. Just the negative PR associated with the problem at hand.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by fsckboy »

plingamp wrote: post #194
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully you were in Switzerland rather than the states, I just never see American police caring about that.

My car got broken into in Oakland, California. Multiple pieces of luggage stolen (yes, my fault for leaving it in the car in the first place). Luckily I had an AirTag that showed the exact location of the stolen items. I called the police but they said they couldn't do anything. Apparently, even if I had the location the thief would have to invite them in. Regardless, I was put on a waiting list, they finally called…

>the thief would have to invite them in

it wasn't your mistake calling them, but be thankful you escaped: those police were apparently vampires.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by boingus »

whateveracct wrote: post #466
aikinai wrote: post #394

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You can also do that in high-functioning societies. In Japan people leave their purses, phones, etc to hold their seat before ordering in a café, going to the bathroom, etc.

In Japan, they also had to segregate subways by sex to deter groping. And the men just got on the woman cars anyways. High-functioning society lol.

In Japan, there's so little crime that they make an effort to crack down on things like creepshots. The desire to tackle stuff like that is more than most countries do, where it's swept under the rug and ignored.

In America, you can proudly say you grope and molest women and it's considered presidential behavior.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by shibapuppie »

plingamp wrote: post #194
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully you were in Switzerland rather than the states, I just never see American police caring about that.

My car got broken into in Oakland, California. Multiple pieces of luggage stolen (yes, my fault for leaving it in the car in the first place). Luckily I had an AirTag that showed the exact location of the stolen items. I called the police but they said they couldn't do anything. Apparently, even if I had the location the thief would have to invite them in. Regardless, I was put on a waiting list, they finally called…

I'm sure if you were to "take your gun" to where the AirTag is located, the police would care a ton more.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by secalex »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #115
helloguillecl wrote: post #99

Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

Thankfully you were in Switzerland rather than the states, I just never see American police caring about that.

My friend/colleague had her phone stolen while she was napping in the hospital room of her terminally ill husband. Fortunately it had MDM. Called Palo Alto PD, I sat with them and tracked it from the hotel and it was already in San Jose. They worked with SJPD live and walked them into the guy who happened to be in a parking garage peering into cars. Caught him with a backpack full of stolen phones.

The stereotype of US cops not caring isn't always true.

Unfortunate fact for the perp was the ill husband was a US Attorney and stealing his phone made it a big boy federal felony that was not looked kindly upon by the colleagues of a dying AUSA in the Northern District. I wonder if he's still in FCI Lompoc.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by JasonADrury »

rangestransform wrote: post #387
trollbridge wrote: post #357

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I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

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I don't think this is true. It's probably true that there's a pervasive belief that a hungry person probably shouldn't be punished for stealing food.

Other kinds of property crime? The costs of enforcement are high compared to the losses caused by individual cases, prioritization is understandably a difficult problem to solve.

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Post by prmoustache »

ryandrake wrote: post #271
Schmerika wrote: post #266

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> compared to say, stopping the local drug-gangs from shoting their brains out I'm guessing people have that impression from TV, but it doesn't seem to match reality. > the data suggests that officers spend relatively little time responding to major violent crimes: 4%, 3.7% and 4.1% in the three locations, respectively. - https://www.freethink.com/society/how-police-spend-their-tim...

Which raises the obvious question: If they're not responding to either violent crimes or nonviolent crimes, what are they doing all day?

Anecdotal evidence but they spend a significant amount of time at the burger joint next to my place, while blocking the bicycle lane instead of parking legally.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by Foobar8568 »

trollbridge wrote: post #357
helloguillecl wrote: post #99

Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

I need to applaud the efficiency and moxie of the Zurich / Swiss police service. In America, the UK, Canada, etc they'd tell you to fill out a report that nobody would ever read, and also advise you it's probably unsafe to go pick it up yourself.

That's not a common occurrence, police in Switzerland is highly passive, and the judiciary system is highly complicit with criminals (drug dealers,thieves, white collar crimes etc), and against women (rape victims can be told to close their legs better by judges).

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Post by prmoustache »

pkulak wrote: post #382
helloguillecl wrote: post #99

Airtag is the reason of why I stil have my favourite hand luggage. I had just sat down on the train from Zurich to Basel. Suddenly, someone sat down in front of me. He looked suspicious, but I didn't pay much attention. Just before the train departed, he picked up what I thought were his belongings and left. Twenty minutes later, already on the way to Basel, I looked toward where I had left my suitcase. It was gone.…

My local police would literally laugh at me if I made that call.

Reminds me of a Big Lebowski scene. That is surprising because it is an easy win for them. They would be all after it.

I have recollection of french police using civilian appearance to collect a bike thief in a meetup between him and the bike's original owner presenting himself as a buyer.

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