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Americans fail to appreciate a few things about our economy 1. We have a large homgoneous market where you can build a product and it’s expected it can succeed for hundreds of millions of Americans 2. EU is the easiest second market, and another step change of hundreds of millions of customers in a somewhat unified market 3. there’s not an easy 3rd economy that replaces EUs wealth, population, and comfort with Englis…

There is also australian and british markets I assume?

Re: France Aiming to Replace Zoom, Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, etc.

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Americans fail to appreciate a few things about our economy 1. We have a large homgoneous market where you can build a product and it’s expected it can succeed for hundreds of millions of Americans 2. EU is the easiest second market, and another step change of hundreds of millions of customers in a somewhat unified market 3. there’s not an easy 3rd economy that replaces EUs wealth, population, and comfort with Englis…

> there’s not an easy 3rd economy

There isn't right now but India very much wants to be that in about a decade

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It seems optimistic to me at this point that he could be replaced by a Republican not largely crafted in his image. It's possible, but I certainly wouldn't take it for granted.

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Vance has zero of the charisma that Trump has for his voters.

I can’t explain the charisma. I can’t even really describe it, but it’s real. Others have tried to replicate it with no luck.

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Exactly. Trump is just a symptom. If he disappeared tomorrow, the people who elected him are still here, and they still want the same things: Belligerence, Cruelty, Isolationism, and lots of other terrible things. When Trump is no longer in the picture, they'll find a new candidate who offers this.

You don't have to convince every Trump voter. The margin who swung from Biden to Trump and elected Trump aren't all those things. They just don't want what the Dems were selling in 2024, specifically: the dems' adopted ideology surrounding gender, plus using race and gender to pick who gets jobs and into schools, rather than merit. If they removed just those two planks from the DNC platform, (1) Harris would have nev…

This is the logic of running to the middle. And yet moderate candidates do poorly these days.

Worth noting who gives this advice and to whom.

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I moved my stuff to Hetzner. Obv I have no idea about your situation, but I found it fairly trivial for my stuff. But I can't figure out how to replace GSuite.

Well for one thing, call me a sell-out or accuse me of lacking craftsmanship, but I like my databases managed. Then also storage buckets, IAM, general cloud security and other niceties. And I don't think it's for a lack of skills, I know my way around a Linux box - it's just that I save so much time. I'll occasionally build small projects in a VPS (sometimes cramming the db in there too!) but I don't feel I can do it…

You're not wrong. Europe has no clouds only hosting & vps providers. Nothing has changed in 20 years. Really sad actually.

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No. You're wrong on all counts. That was not a "huge deal". Canada reduced tariffs on EVs to get reduced tariffs on some agriculture items. This put things back to where they were a few years ago. Canada doesn't have a free trade deal with China like it does with the US and Mexico.

Canada has been extremely closely aligned with US vehicle manufacturing for over a century. I'm not sure if Canada has a bigger lever to shoot american auto manufacturing in the leg. Opening the door to Chinese electric vehicles rattles the very foundations of American manufacturing. If anything, "huge deal" was an understatement.

No, the "huge deal" was when the US crippled the entire North American vehicle manufacturing industry.

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There's only one thing they need to replace if they want to show independence: ChatGPT. They had their chance with Mistral and failed spectacularly with just creating anti-AI regulations. As a European I'm happy to use their product (and pay for it), I just ask one tiny little thing from them: build a better model with lower latency.

No. No one really gives a shit about AI other than the tech industry and vocal CEO culture which is just using it to bury recession and regular lay offs. Otherwise it's novelty value and frustration but no one is going to use it or pay enough for it to be viable as an economic backbone. There are many more important things to consider. Like literally everything else society sits on top of.

AI is great at translating, doing a task in seconds which would take days. For almost no cost.

That is quite significant on a continent like Europe, with dozens of different languages.

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I see a "top-down" approach, actually. Government and public services change to (ideally) open source, and "impose"/"require" downstream compatibility. This would create the incentive and make change easier

Yeah "all bids for government contracts must" is a really powerful sword. It pushes money into the market, creates skills and business and, crucially can look beyond quarterly profits (for better or worse).

Yes! We must mandate that all loyal citizens have to use Arch Linux and Vim. Severe punishment and long prison terms for any other distro or text editor.

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> Even though it is acceptable these days Have you used Teams these days? If you think it's acceptable, I suggest that may be the Stockholm Syndrome kicking in.

He didn't say good . I'd agree with his assessment. It's acceptable . And for all its many flaws it does have some advantages over Meet (which is what my company switched to it from): * Remote control of other people's desktops (except on Linux unfortunately). Meet has no solution for that. Endless "no up a bit, left.. no you had it. Third one from the top. Here let me share my screen instead". * Conversations you ha…

It falls below the bar of acceptable for me because I can't share videos or images over a certain size because it requires someone in my org to have configured SharePoint correctly which is apparently an impossible task.
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