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Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by 8fingerlouie »

guessmyname wrote: post #44
calrain wrote: post #43

Just today I dumped Windows 11 and moved to Linux, lots to learn but wow, so nice not to be inside their walls.

> Just today I dumped Windows 11 and moved to Linux, lots to learn but wow, so nice not to be inside their walls. Well, best of luck. I don’t regret switching from Windows to Linux decades ago, I learned a lot, but I can’t say the problems ever stopped. If anything, I ran into more issues than I did on Windows, many of them caused by things I did at the command line, and others due to quirks or bugs in open‑source so…

I've used Linux (and FreeBSD) for decades. My first linux distribution was Yggdrasil Plug & Play Linux Fall 1994 (https://github.com/jtsagata/Yggdrasil-1994). Windows stuck around for gaming.

My experience may have been different as Linux was less mature back then, but ultimately i had a lot of "issues" that required Linux knowledge to fix, so while it was "fine" for me, i wouldn't push it to my family for day to day usage.

Since then i've moved pretty much everyone to Mac. My parents, my in-laws, wife, kids, all use Macs, and the number of "support" calls have fallen from weekly to "once or twice per year", and that's compared to when they ran Windows.

Linux on the desktop is certainly better than it was a decade ago (i still lurk and install new releases from time to time), but it's still a far cry from being optimized for the average user that just needs things to work. Not saying it won't ever get there, but it will take some effort to make it frictionless.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by breakingcups »

jampa wrote: post #5

I am glad that I don't need to use Windows anymore. When I did, the LTSC version (the one made for ATM and Kiosks) was the only one that was productivity-friendly. Microsoft doesn't want to accept that no one cares about Windows, and the OS is the thing that gets you to the thing you want to do. I saw 2 instances of people getting "updating windows" in their personal laptops when they tried to present something and l…

Windows IoT (Formerly Windows Embedded) is the version made for ATMs and Kiosks.

Windows LTSC is meant for organisations favoring stability over new features.

Funnily enough, Windows IoT also has an LTSC version.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by imtringued »

ronsor wrote: post #2

I've got to stop doing Windows Updates

Back when I used Windows, there were plenty of boot looping updates in Windows Vista, 7 and 10. You had three options. Either you disable Windows Updates, reinstall Windows or find a way to delete or prevent the specific patch that breaks your Windows installation.

On Windows 10 I was forced to disable Windows Updates altogether, because the updates never finished even after running overnight. I have stopped using Windows since 2018.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by pjmlp »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #61
guessmyname wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just today I dumped Windows 11 and moved to Linux, lots to learn but wow, so nice not to be inside their walls. Well, best of luck. I don’t regret switching from Windows to Linux decades ago, I learned a lot, but I can’t say the problems ever stopped. If anything, I ran into more issues than I did on Windows, many of them caused by things I did at the command line, and others due to quirks or bugs in open‑source so…

I've used Linux (and FreeBSD) for decades. My first linux distribution was Yggdrasil Plug & Play Linux Fall 1994 ( https://github.com/jtsagata/Yggdrasil-1994 ). Windows stuck around for gaming. My experience may have been different as Linux was less mature back then, but ultimately i had a lot of "issues" that required Linux knowledge to fix, so while it was "fine" for me, i wouldn't push it to my family for day to d…

Yeah, just last year I had several issues with a Gigabyte board that refused to boot Linux regardless of the UEFI incantation, paritions being used, or distribution, yet it had no problems booting the very same M.2 SSD if plugged via an external case.

Eventually it gets tiring, I still remember Yggdrasil, my first distro was Slackware 2.0, bundled on Linux Unleashed first edition in 1995.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by expedition32 »

kyriakos wrote: post #8
jampa wrote: post #5

I am glad that I don't need to use Windows anymore. When I did, the LTSC version (the one made for ATM and Kiosks) was the only one that was productivity-friendly. Microsoft doesn't want to accept that no one cares about Windows, and the OS is the thing that gets you to the thing you want to do. I saw 2 instances of people getting "updating windows" in their personal laptops when they tried to present something and l…

If nobody cared about windows there wouldn't be any posts like this one everyday on HN. The problem is people do care and need to use windows which makes all these stupidity by Microsoft the recent years frustrating.

I am not going to defend MS but I have to say that the frustration is less than it was in the 90s.

Reinstalling Windows used to take an entire afternoon. Now I can do it in an hour.

Basically Windows and computers in general have always been frustrating.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by dessimus »

expedition32 wrote: post #67
kyriakos wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If nobody cared about windows there wouldn't be any posts like this one everyday on HN. The problem is people do care and need to use windows which makes all these stupidity by Microsoft the recent years frustrating.

I am not going to defend MS but I have to say that the frustration is less than it was in the 90s. Reinstalling Windows used to take an entire afternoon. Now I can do it in an hour. Basically Windows and computers in general have always been frustrating.

I'm not certain what point you are attempting to make, The size of Windows install has not smaller and therefore improving install time, but rather the hardware has gotten so much faster. Installing from a USB 3 key is so much faster than floppy or optical media, as well as NVMe drives are receiving the data vs old spinning rust drives.

Re: Microsoft suspects some PCs might not boot after Windows 11 January 2026 Update

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Post by fleroviumna »

jampa wrote: post #5

I am glad that I don't need to use Windows anymore. When I did, the LTSC version (the one made for ATM and Kiosks) was the only one that was productivity-friendly. Microsoft doesn't want to accept that no one cares about Windows, and the OS is the thing that gets you to the thing you want to do. I saw 2 instances of people getting "updating windows" in their personal laptops when they tried to present something and l…

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