What if I rent a cheap VPS overseas and wireguard my traffic to that?
UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
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Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, if you're unable to read, I understand reaching such conclusion :) But no, this is about platforms/services: > Amendment 92 (“Action to Prohibit the Provision of VPN Services to Children in the United Kingdom”) requires VPNs that are “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons” to implement age assurance for UK users.
But if openvpn clients want to connect to those servers?
If those services are provided by a company that “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons”, then they need to implement those checks. Still outside of openvpn, and still outside of general servers, you can still spin up your own server and use that, without any age checks, as you're not offering any service.
The host who lets you spin up the server might also need to implement those age checks though. But still, not openvpn.
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#13What if I rent a cheap VPS overseas and wireguard my traffic to that?
As long as you don't offer it for others in exchange for money, it isn't a service and not what's covered here.
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#14Just for clarification. House of Lords amendments do not have to be accepted by the House of Commons and may not make it into law. If you do not agree with an amendment then write to your MP, write to the ministers concerned. If you do not tell them your concerns they will not know. You can ask for an appointment with your MP. You can ask for an appointment with ministers. Better still you can form an advocacy group…
No, but it does mean that MP's have to make a positive decision to reject it, the proponents of the amendments (who are well financed) will claim anyone who opposes the amendment is pro-pedophile (as happened with the online safety act) which makes it hard to reject.
To stop it now we need a majority of MPs who are willing to take a political risk to reject it.
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, if you're unable to read, I understand reaching such conclusion :) But no, this is about platforms/services: > Amendment 92 (“Action to Prohibit the Provision of VPN Services to Children in the United Kingdom”) requires VPNs that are “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons” to implement age assurance for UK users.
surely openvpn being pre-installed on most routers means it's provided to an significant portion?
It is the server that you connect to that is covered by this amendment; they don't care how you connect.
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, if you're unable to read, I understand reaching such conclusion :) But no, this is about platforms/services: > Amendment 92 (“Action to Prohibit the Provision of VPN Services to Children in the United Kingdom”) requires VPNs that are “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons” to implement age assurance for UK users.
it also said to have "different ages for different services" so the fact you have a debit/credit card to pay is more than enough to prove you at least 16. this will be interesting to watch i just wish i weren't caught in the net.
That's never been true in the UK? You don't have to be 16 to get a debit card, and having one isn't proof of any age. (For example, Barclays gave me my first debit card when I was 13, many years ago.)
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, if you're unable to read, I understand reaching such conclusion :) But no, this is about platforms/services: > Amendment 92 (“Action to Prohibit the Provision of VPN Services to Children in the United Kingdom”) requires VPNs that are “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons” to implement age assurance for UK users.
surely openvpn being pre-installed on most routers means it's provided to an significant portion?
i don't think so, it is not provided as a service. if you provide vpn service people can connect to from their router then you need to do age verification before giving them a key/password to connect to the server
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#18So will openvpn now get a new command line argument '--passport-number-for-age-verification 8371652299'? And presumably also a '--webcam-to-use-for-identity'
Yeah, if you're unable to read, I understand reaching such conclusion :) But no, this is about platforms/services: > Amendment 92 (“Action to Prohibit the Provision of VPN Services to Children in the United Kingdom”) requires VPNs that are “offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom” or “provided to a significant number of persons” to implement age assurance for UK users.
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Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#19What if I rent a cheap VPS overseas and wireguard my traffic to that?
then you are not using any vpn service marketed or provided in the UK. if you were to sell access to your VPS to others then you would have to do age verifications on them maybe.
maybe it is still illegal, IDK, bu likely due to other laws (eg a generic "it is illegal to use workaround for X")
Re: UK House of Lords Votes to Extend Age Verification to VPNs
#20What if I rent a cheap VPS overseas and wireguard my traffic to that?
then you are not using any vpn service marketed or provided in the UK . if you were to sell access to your VPS to others then you would have to do age verifications on them maybe. maybe it is still illegal, IDK, bu likely due to other laws (eg a generic "it is illegal to use workaround for X")
then you are not using any vpn service marketed or provided in the UK[0]. if you were to sell access to your VPS to others then you would have to do age verifications on them maybe.
[0] maybe it is still illegal, IDK, bu likely due to other laws (eg a generic "it is illegal to use workaround for X")