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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Wait, so you think government that will make some "ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation and much more" illegal is probable enough to consider such hypothetical situation, but government that will ignore law is where you draw the line?

I think ex post facto laws being passed is much more rare of a situation.

"Ex-post facto? No, you see, the message was still in the Discord chat history and you did not delete it, despite having years to do so."

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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> less coverage or discussion than a new version of jQuery Pretty sure this is a feature not a bug. Most people aren’t here for political topics.

It gets down to the definition of political which is basically anything that might have a human cost, including to the people here. I have many coworkers having to upend their lives, some can’t currently leave the country. This is not worthy of discussion, but an esoteric library update is. Paul Graham posts are not political topics for some reason, but H1B people is. Technology, technology leaders, and technology co…

Well said. Even people with a lot in common can and should disagree often. In non-authoritarian systems, politics is supposed to be about managing this disagreement in civil ways. Politics seems unsavory to some, often because they find a lot of political manifestations to be vile or insipid. [1] I get that, but in a way this revulsion is backwards. The alternatives to the sausage-making of politics is usually worse: pretending there is no disagreement, coercion, violence, gaslighting. So when someone says "I don't like politics" I like to say "disagreement is to be expected".

[1] When representatives spend something like 4+ hours a day fundraising, people have good reason to say "this is f-ed up." https://gai.georgetown.edu/an-inside-look-at-congressional-f...

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The fourth amendment is basically gone at this point. Private companies can harvest location data from phones or facial recognition cameras/license plate readers in public spaces and sell that to entities like Palantir that aggregate it for government use (or for other commercial use). No warrants required, very little oversight (especially in this admin).

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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> Schmidt is actually from OG Internet circles where many people were aware of privacy issues, and who were vigilant against incursions. > But perhaps he had a different philosophical position. Or perhaps it was his job to downplay the risks I feel that as the consumer surveillance industry took off, everyone from those OG Internet circles was presented with a choice - stick with the individualist hacker spirit, or t…

100% that is exactly what happened and in public Just invoking Richard Stallman will prove it because the smear campaign on him was so thorough. Linus seems to be the only one that made it out.

And barely so.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

It reminds me of when Eric Schmidt, then CEO of google, tried that argument about people's worry of google collecting so much personal data. Some media outlet then published a bunch of personal information about Schmidt they had gathered using only google searches, including where he lives, his salary, his political donations, and where his kids went to school. Schmidt was not amused.

Thiel lost his shit because Gawker mentioned he was gay in an article on their site. Something _everybody_ in Silicon Valley already knew. Then he goes and forms what essentially amounts to a private CIA.

How about Musk? He felt he had a right to hoover up data about people from every government agency, but throws a massive temper-tantrum when people publish where his private jet is flying using publicly available data.

How about Mark Zuckerberg? So private he buys up all the properties around him and has his private goon squad stopping people on public property who live in the neighborhood, haranguing them just for walking past or near the property.

These people are all supremely hypocritical when it comes to privacy.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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> This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agency with, apparently, no accountability for following the law at all. Apparently any time they do anything horrifying, they will just declare that victim as a "terrorist" or something, and their sycophantic supporters will happily agree. What I find amusing is that when the Snowden leaks happened and I would discuss it, when I said something like…

Yes, exactly. But, I’ll admit it took me until the republican primary before the 2016 election for this to register in my mind. I was born in the US in the 80s & fell into the “what you see is all there is” bias (and hadn’t read enough history before then either). Another opinion that I’m sure will get me downvoted is that this is the primary reason I support gun ownership by private citizens. I think having a chance…

> I think having a chance at stopping mass government slaughter like in Iran and Syria is overall better than the downside.

That won't stop the mass government slaughter, if anything it will accelerate it.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The fourth amendment is basically gone at this point. Private companies can harvest location data from phones or facial recognition cameras/license plate readers in public spaces and sell that to entities like Palantir that aggregate it for government use (or for other commercial use). No warrants required, very little oversight (especially in this admin).

One favorable ruling could cause all of that corporate fuckery to come crashing down, but it doesn't seem imminent.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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How do we know whether they're people or bots?

Well in my case I was referring to actual vocal conversations I've had with humans, either in person or on MS Teams. I suppose that there could be an extremely elaborate LLM to control humanoid robots to try and fool me, but I do not believe that's the case.

Yet. But another year or two of progress on AI deepfakes and you will be talking to a bot and be none the wiser.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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How does that work? As a US citizen, no amount of "harassment" is going to stop me from voting.

Are you a citizen, can you prove it at the polling station? I am doubtful you are, and your documents if you have them don't seem legit enough, so I think we'll set your vote aside, or possibly prevent it from being cast; we can't be too sure!

It doesn't matter whether you can prove it. ICE's current position [0] is that their face scanning app supercedes documents like birth certificates to determine status.

[0] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/ices-forced-face...

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