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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by XorNot »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

The data isn't the problem, the jack-booted thugs kicking in doors is.

Which is now literally happening and people are still acting like their privacy is going to somehow prevent it.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by afpx »

sosomoxie wrote: post #128
PlanksVariable wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Deportation is a reasonable response when a person violates a country’s immigration laws. That is the standard around the world. Alternatively, you have an essentially open border, which obviously can lead to unmanageable waves of immigration that strain a country’s housing, healthcare, schools, welfare, and other resources, among other effects. Disruption to peoples’ lives happens when we have administrations w…

> obviously can lead to unmanageable waves of immigration that strain a country’s housing, healthcare, schools, welfare, and other resources, among other effects. I don't agree that this is "obvious". Immigrants bring important social and cultural capital. Who do you think is building a lot of the infrastructure in the US? The people putting a strain on the system are actually the aging baby boomer generation. I have…

I’m hoping the world grants everyone citizenship to the state of Israel. Most of us are children of Abraham statistically anyway. And, think of all the benefits and economic development.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by rlt »

AngryData wrote: post #400
nailer wrote: post #325

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Someone bought a Sig Sauer gun that’s known to go off when moved suddenly (you can find as many videos as you want on the issue) - grabbed an agent and resisted arrest. The gun went off during the arrest, officers thought the man was firing at them. It’s tragic - the way to prevent this is to increase calm, give the federal officers some support, stop conspiracy theories (eg like the boy that abandoned by his father…

Lol no, guns don't just magically go off when in a holster. Yes mechanical failures do happen, but it requires very specific types of impact in very specific ways that cannot happen when in a holster and are so rare as to happen on decade timescales with tens of thousands of the gun. Also I saw zero evidence of that guys gun going off in the video, the first shot heard is the shot coming out of the ICE goon's gun tha…

The Sig Sauer P320, which is what Alex Pretti had, is notorious for unintentionally discharging. Various law enforcement agencies and militaries have stopped using it for that reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_Sauer_P320

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by Aunche »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

That is not a good argument for privacy. I don't see how more privacy would have prevented any evil that has been doing.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by pandaman »

tombert wrote: post #463
pandaman wrote: post #456

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Can't talk for all Red states, but in Austin, TX the city police is arresting even people who try to interfere with traffic, even more so people who interfere with federal agents so there is a little chance someone reads reddit, figures there is nothing going to happen if he or she lays hands on a fed and get lit. Now, I've seen quite a few of videos from Minneapolis and there were literally 0 MPD officers in any of…

Oh, well if you saw like four videos on YouTube or TikTok I guess that's sufficient evidence for me.

Please go ahead and present your evidence, show where is the police interacting with the "protesters" in Minneapolis.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by rlt »

hydrogen7800 wrote: post #414
nailer wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone bought a Sig Sauer gun that’s known to go off when moved suddenly (you can find as many videos as you want on the issue) - grabbed an agent and resisted arrest. The gun went off during the arrest, officers thought the man was firing at them. It’s tragic - the way to prevent this is to increase calm, give the federal officers some support, stop conspiracy theories (eg like the boy that abandoned by his father…

Well, that's an interesting take. Even if a holstered weapon did discharge (no idea how likely this is for the specific weapon in question), why would someone suspect they are being fired at by a person with a holstered weapon? Poor/no training is the most charitable explanation. I suppose enough people will grasp at this take.

Poor training seems plausible, if not likely. But then it's not murder / "extrajudicial killing".

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by ahallock »

tinyhouse wrote: post #60
therobots927 wrote: post #43

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You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have a question. If you don't deport illegal immigrants, why not just open the border to everyone to come in? (let's ignore criminal records, etc for this exercise). What's the point of not letting people in but then if they manage to come in illegally, assume it's all good and they can stay?

That's no longer immigration; that's an invasion. You can't just let unfettered immigration into a country because that would drain resources and have a negative cultural impact. Yes, people in a country pay taxes and as such should enjoy protections against invaders.

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Post by ahallock »

jfyi wrote: post #155
blell wrote: post #127

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Because once they come in sufficient numbers they will turn your country into the country they fled from - and then you are in trouble.

This is a slippery slope argument at best and jingoist rhetoric at worst.

It's really not. It takes many generations to assimilate. You cannot just invite a huge influx of people and not expect a major cultural shift.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

nullocator wrote: post #377
fastball wrote: post #344

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How does that work? As a US citizen, no amount of "harassment" is going to stop me from voting.

Are you a citizen, can you prove it at the polling station? I am doubtful you are, and your documents if you have them don't seem legit enough, so I think we'll set your vote aside, or possibly prevent it from being cast; we can't be too sure!

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by hackable_sand »

therobots927 wrote: post #421
dogman123 wrote: post #194

pretty awesome that the new yc website touts gary tan's work at palantir as a positive "he was an early designer and engineering manager at Palantir (NYSE:PLTR), where he designed the company logo"

We’re talking inside the death star

Bro idk about you I'm on Endor
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