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Post by philipallstar »

acdha wrote: post #180
rngfnby wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why are we under the replacement rate? Seems relevant

It all comes back to women being treated as full people. Having a child is dangerous, expensive, and a major time commitment which mean that women who have other options are going to have fewer children later in life when they have the resources to support them. We also have much less demand for unskilled workers so even women who really want children are getting educated and establishing careers first rather than ge…

> It all comes back to women being treated as full people.

What does this actually mean? Do you mean "get a job instead of having kids?" Working to afford life instead of having kids seem much less humanising, if anything. Being a wife and mum is being a full person, and the main thing that's bad about it is if you are a full-time mum your spouse has to work incredibly hard to compete on the housing ladder against all the two-income families bidding against them.

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Post by ambicapter »

iso1631 wrote: post #258
RickJWagner wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget about social media posts. In the UK, people are being jailed for those today . Imagine if they used your past post history against you.

In the US if you make a social media post threatening the president you are breaking the law and can be sent to jail just as much as if you said it

Link?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by philipallstar »

LightBug1 wrote: post #270
rngfnby wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why are we under the replacement rate? Seems relevant

Considering at least a third of potential replacement partners are Trump voters, can you imagine women feeling sexy about them? LOL

Considering the many liberal women who want men who have conservative values (although still agree with them on politics, somehow), yes. Probably yes.

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Post by zugi »

RicciFlow wrote: post #235
p1esk wrote: post #98

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Privacy itself can become illegal just as easily as religion, etc. if we follow your argument.

EU is literally debating about "Chat Control". Its purpose is to scan for child sexual abuse material in internet traffic. But its at the cost of breaking end to end encryption.

> Its purpose is to scan

That's its ostensible, purported, show purpose.

The real purpose is to break end to end encryption to increase government surveillance and power. "But think of the children" or "be afraid of the terrorists" are just the excuses those in power rotate through to to achieve their true desired ends.

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Post by ambicapter »

HellDunkel wrote: post #267
throw-qqqqq wrote: post #208

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I usually just quote Snowden instead: “Ultimately, arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.”

Not as clever as it may sound. It is perfectly possible that someone has nothing to hide in a good way, whereas someone without anything to say for himself cannot be easily imagined as a good faith social individual. So in a way this is comparing apples to bad apples and claiming they are perfectly equal.

> whereas someone without anything to say for himself cannot be easily imagined as a good faith social individual

Huh? You can’t imagine boring people as a “good faith social individual”?

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Post by lugu »

ck_one wrote: post #16
simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

This is the moment for Europe to show that you can do gov and business differently. If they get their s** together and actually present a viable alternative.

What would you like to see changed in the EU?

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Post by neilv »

tasty_freeze wrote: post #203
simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

It reminds me of when Eric Schmidt, then CEO of google, tried that argument about people's worry of google collecting so much personal data. Some media outlet then published a bunch of personal information about Schmidt they had gathered using only google searches, including where he lives, his salary, his political donations, and where his kids went to school. Schmidt was not amused.

That questionable-sounding stunt by the media outlet wasn't comparable: Google/Alphabet knows much more about individuals than addresses, salary, and political donations.

Google/Alphabet knows quite a lot about your sentiments, what information you've seen, your relationships, who can get to you, who you can get to, your hopes and fears, your economic situation, your health conditions, assorted kompromat, your movements, etc.

Schmidt is actually from OG Internet circles where many people were aware of privacy issues, and who were vigilant against incursions.

But perhaps he had a different philosophical position. Or perhaps it was his job to downplay the risks. Or perhaps he was going to have enough money and power that he wasn't personally threatened by private info that would threaten the less-wealthy.

We might learn this year, how well Google/Alphabet protects this treasure trove of surveillance state data, when that matters most.

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Post by charcircuit »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

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Post by Rodeoclash »

keybored wrote: post #207
direwolf20 wrote: post #61

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The reaction from the masses: "But that isn't true today, anything could happen in the future, and why should I invest so much work on something that's only a possibility?"

I sometimes imagine that HN was a professional collective. Maybe working with the supply chain of foodstuffs. Carciogenic foodstuff would be legal. Environmental harzards getting into foodstuff would be legal. But there would be a highly ideological subgroup that would advocate for something that would very indirectly handle these problems. And the rest of the professional collective are mixed and divided on whether…

The older I get the more disconnected I feel from some of the posters on this site. I can't remember exactly when I joined, 2012ish maybe? But the takes people have seem to be getting wilder and wilder.
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