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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Europe can't do business differently. Or at least it doesn't seem to be able to. China can.

Last I checked millions of europeans are living in a functioning civilization. I've lived in Europe. It is ok. Don't confuse "GDP not as big as ours" with "totally non-functional."

I didn't say it was totally nonfunctional, I said they can't do business differently than they are currently doing.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The same people saying that will also defend police wearing masks, hiding badges, and shutting off body cameras. They are not participating in discussions with the same values (truth, integrity) that you have. Logic does not work on people who believe Calvinistic predestination is the right model for society.

Wait. Is calvinistic predestination the majority view of republicans? I thought most of them are some form of (tv) evangelism, or secularism I am not American and genuinely curious on this.

Calvinistic predestination is a TULIP sense (Total depravity, Unconditional election, Limited atonement, Irresistible grace, and Perseverance of the saints) is an extreme minority position, like 7% to 5% of the American Church (Reformed Camp)

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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For me, the angle is a bit different. I want privacy, but I also sense that the people who are really good at this (like Plantir) have so much proxy information available that individual steps to protect privacy are pretty much worthless. To me, this is a problem that can only be solved at the government/regulatory level.

In principle, I agree with your point; in practice, I think the claims made my these surveillance/advertising companies are likely as overstated as Musk's last decade of self-driving that still can't take a vehicle all the way across the USA without supervision in response to a phone summons. The evidence I have that causes me to believe them to be overstated, is how even Facebook has frequently shown me ads that inh…

> I think the claims made my these surveillance/advertising companies are likely as overstated as Musk's last decade of self-driving

They are not overstated, and they are far worse.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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“If it was up to Stephen [Miller], there would only be 100 million people in this country, and they would all look like him.” To accomplish things like that, a lot of us are going to be removed. I don't think these are jokes, it's a pattern of statements to condition and normalize. A thing he has done over and over.

What are you quoting? I mean, that sounds like what Stephen miller believes, but who said it?

Trump, ~6 months ago

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Glad to see this post didn't get flagged like the one that was posted yesterday on a similar topic about ICE data mining and user tracking. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46748336

It is really disheartening and sad to see this community burying its head in the sand and ignoring what’s happening to our country

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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You’re right. We should throw away the constitution so we can deport.. (checks notes) 600,000 undocumented immigrants, only 5% of which have committed a violent crime.

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do have a question. If you don't deport illegal immigrants, why not just open the border to everyone to come in? (let's ignore criminal records, etc for this exercise). What's the point of not letting people in but then if they manage to come in illegally, assume it's all good and they can stay?

Because we like second-class citizens because its easier to exploit their labor.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Do explain

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Once upon a time this was such a shocking accusation that people just believed it, as who would lie about it?

But when people say this for ten years at the drop of a hat, you have to forgive everyone else for not just automatically believing it any more.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Why? Deportation is a reasonable response when a person violates a country’s immigration laws. That is the standard around the world. Alternatively, you have an essentially open border, which obviously can lead to unmanageable waves of immigration that strain a country’s housing, healthcare, schools, welfare, and other resources, among other effects. Disruption to peoples’ lives happens when we have administrations w…

> obviously can lead to unmanageable waves of immigration that strain a country’s housing, healthcare, schools, welfare, and other resources, among other effects. I don't agree that this is "obvious". Immigrants bring important social and cultural capital. Who do you think is building a lot of the infrastructure in the US? The people putting a strain on the system are actually the aging baby boomer generation. I have…

Immigrants do bring important social and cultural capital. But nobody here is arguing in favor of no immigration.

The standard among countries all over the world is to regulate the flow of immigration via immigration law and deportation of people who violate that law.

How could a massive influx of people happening faster than a system can react not strain the system? I saw this firsthand in schools and hospitals where I grew up, and there are numerous examples throughout history from around the world of the disruption it can cause.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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The US cannot afford, demographically, to curtail immigration, illegal or otherwise. Simple fact is the US needs more people because we’re under the replacement rate.

But why are we under the replacement rate? Seems relevant

It all comes back to women being treated as full people. Having a child is dangerous, expensive, and a major time commitment which mean that women who have other options are going to have fewer children later in life when they have the resources to support them. We also have much less demand for unskilled workers so even women who really want children are getting educated and establishing careers first rather than getting married at 18.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2026/is-the-us-birth-rate-decli...

That leaves really only two choices: pull a Ceaușescu and try to remove the choice, or improve all of the things which make people feel now is not the right time to have kids. Since the former choice is both immoral and self-defeating, that really flips the discussion to why the people who claim to want more children oppose universal healthcare, childcare, making housing more affordable, banning negative career impacts for mothers, addressing climate change, etc. There are many things which factor into an expensive multi-decade bet and you have to improve all of them to substantially shift the outcome.

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