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TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Good. now that it is done, can EU and the rest of the world push for regional ownership of Instagram, WhatsApp and Youtube without the US complaining unfair practices.

Chinese ownership as a security threat is currently in between reality and conspiracy realms but the US govt meddling as a threat is a proven reality worldwide.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

#22

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

I used TikTok a few times and then uninstalled it because it’s very addictive. It’s a lot of nonsense like dances, and bits of cooking episodes, travel and destination clips, punchlines from TV shows and cartoons, memes etc. It’s a really sad thing to use honestly, makes you feel dirty for wasting all that time.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

#23

Didn't this all start with data privacy? How is TikTok user data more private today than it was a year ago?

I think it was more about control. The narrative was that the Chinese government was intentionally affecting the algorithm for US users to dumb them down and affect elections.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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post #21

Good. now that it is done, can EU and the rest of the world push for regional ownership of Instagram, WhatsApp and Youtube without the US complaining unfair practices. Chinese ownership as a security threat is currently in between reality and conspiracy realms but the US govt meddling as a threat is a proven reality worldwide.

The EU would have to put the US on a list of "foreign adversaries", with whatever political fallout comes from that. Not saying they shouldn't, but there will be downsides.

Since controlling these platforms is probably the best ROI for swinging public opinion, I'm sure it's a matter of time before they get seized (one way or another) and redistributed to reliable political allies.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

#26

So.. US intelligence agencies and data brokers are going to mine it and US interests are going to pump it full of human and bot sockpuppets to manufacture the consent of users to be more aligned with ideas that work best for the Ellisons' interests.

Yes, this is terrible. Before now it was fine, just Chinese intelligence agencies and data brokers mining it and Chinese interests pumping it full of human and bot sockpuppets to manufacture the consent of users to be more aligned with ideas that work best for the CCP's interests, but now it's just ruined.

I’ll engage with this because I’m curious about your position. I’m not a TikTok user and I’m not American.

All the other American controlled social media platforms are exactly like your China description from my point of view: it’s American agencies and data brokers mining it and American interests pumping it.

Do you think a reasonable course of action is for us to force the sell of American platforms? I have no sympathy for what China is doing but I have no sympathy for what America is doing either.

Why do you think one’s more acceptable other than “it’s my country doing it”, assuming you are American that is.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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post #17

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

My wife loves TikTok. It introduces her to new fashion, new restaurants, new places to visit. Local, hyper local and hidden, and her favorite travel destinations. It's full of bite size tutorials. Tips and tricks. Genuinely useful stuff. Blogs and websites you'd find this stuff on are not as visual, not as well edited, and are hard to find or full of SEO spam. It's introduced her to all kinds of hobbies. Gen Z is all…

> The news breaks almost immediately on TikTok

Not arguing against the rest of your comment, but I find the concept of "breaking news" to be generally terrible for society. News outlets should wait until they have enough information to present an event as accurately as possible, but the rush to be the one that gets there first means this is often not the case.

And I expect this goes double for randos publishing on TikTok.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

#28

This (and PAFACA in general) is a massive disgrace from a 1A POV.

What's the first amendment angle here? Foreign actors aren't covered under 1A, and people in the US are just as able to publish to and consume TikTok as they were before.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this is terrible. Before now it was fine, just Chinese intelligence agencies and data brokers mining it and Chinese interests pumping it full of human and bot sockpuppets to manufacture the consent of users to be more aligned with ideas that work best for the CCP's interests, but now it's just ruined.

I’ll engage with this because I’m curious about your position. I’m not a TikTok user and I’m not American. All the other American controlled social media platforms are exactly like your China description from my point of view: it’s American agencies and data brokers mining it and American interests pumping it. Do you think a reasonable course of action is for us to force the sell of American platforms? I have no symp…

Not the person you're replying to, but:

> Do you think a reasonable course of action is for us to force the sell of American platforms?

Yes, absolutely. If your country's people believe that WhatsApp, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are a threat in the same way, they should take the same action.

(Mind you, I don't believe for a second that this was the real motivation behind what's gone on with TikTok, but I think it's a reasonable course of action to take if you think there is a threat there, regardless of what company or country we're talking about.)

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