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TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by eudamoniac »

NoteyComplexity wrote: post #7

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

I had this discussion once before, I don't remember where, with I taking your position. The other guy seemed to think that entertainment was fungible, and so the entertainment of short form video was objectively better than long form, since it could theoretically be turned off at any point unlike a movie, and since it had infinite variety. Which I guess makes sense if you believe the fungibility, but I can't imagine associating in real life with such a person.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by cyode »

NoteyComplexity wrote: post #7

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

I have several young cousins (gen z) who use TikTok as their Google. Recipes, travel ideas, news, fashion, shopping, how-to videos. While of course a lot of their usage is passive scrolling that trains their algorithm, they're very adept at using search to find the same things I find in my browser.

It's bonkers to me, but I guess my patterns of information lookup have just calcified with age.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by majormajor »

eudamoniac wrote: post #11
NoteyComplexity wrote: post #7

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

I had this discussion once before, I don't remember where, with I taking your position. The other guy seemed to think that entertainment was fungible, and so the entertainment of short form video was objectively better than long form, since it could theoretically be turned off at any point unlike a movie, and since it had infinite variety. Which I guess makes sense if you believe the fungibility, but I can't imagine…

The "I can turn it off unlike a movie" idea is wild. We've had the ability to pause and resume long-form TV/movies for decades.

Heck, how does that person think people read books? Six to ten hour sitting marathons?

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by coffe2mug »

selectodude wrote: post #3
burnt-resistor wrote: post #2

So.. US intelligence agencies and data brokers are going to mine it and US interests are going to pump it full of human and bot sockpuppets to manufacture the consent of users to be more aligned with ideas that work best for the Ellisons' interests.

Correct. We've fixed TikTok by blowing off a law enacted by Congress to ban it and now Oracle has a live tracking of every user by GPS.

Did you mean

... live tracking by ICE

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by echelon »

NoteyComplexity wrote: post #7

What is the point of using short form content platforms as a consumer really? Just put the political stuff aside, they are often too short for any details over any topics if not straightly brainrot, ending up making people get distracted and lost patience easily. I never a fan of YouTube shorts and instagram reels either because of the same reason. Perhaps they are good for promotion, but as a user perspective, can a…

My wife loves TikTok.

It introduces her to new fashion, new restaurants, new places to visit. Local, hyper local and hidden, and her favorite travel destinations.

It's full of bite size tutorials. Tips and tricks. Genuinely useful stuff. Blogs and websites you'd find this stuff on are not as visual, not as well edited, and are hard to find or full of SEO spam.

It's introduced her to all kinds of hobbies. Gen Z is all about finding old consumer digital cameras from 2000 or even older Kodak one-use disposables and transplanting the lenses. TikTok nucleates these interests and trends.

The news breaks almost immediately on TikTok, and there's immediately insightful community commentary - why would you ever need CNN talking heads?

Every day there's a new "fad". It changes fast, on a day to day basis. Just a few days ago, there was this "an owl but from [x]" meme that was really cute/funny.

TikTok is genuinely everything. It's amazing. Much of the old internet it replaces doesn't hold a candle to it.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by user3939382 »

Only a fool would trust the political moderation on any major corporate platform at this point. Some I’m sure see this as a great win. All our media, real estate, and economy is already obviously for sale to foreign govts, but when it comes to propaganda we draw the line.

Re: TikTok is officially US-owned for American users, here's what's changing

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Post by lerp-io »

majormajor wrote: post #14
eudamoniac wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this discussion once before, I don't remember where, with I taking your position. The other guy seemed to think that entertainment was fungible, and so the entertainment of short form video was objectively better than long form, since it could theoretically be turned off at any point unlike a movie, and since it had infinite variety. Which I guess makes sense if you believe the fungibility, but I can't imagine…

The "I can turn it off unlike a movie" idea is wild. We've had the ability to pause and resume long-form TV/movies for decades. Heck, how does that person think people read books? Six to ten hour sitting marathons?

i think you are missing the analogy of people not stopping movies half way
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