From a semi-corrupt country, ie being somewhere between Africa and the developed world, I can only suggest to fellow USians courage and patience three more years. Times will come good again. A corrupt leader is very difficult to change and things seem grim because he has captured all three forms of power.
Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning
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#382Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.
Some naive people here, still think the HN page listing is based on points and comments...
Re: Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning
#383Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.
Because many HN readers flag anything that they deem to be “politics”
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#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to not believe they’re murdering people without justification, so there’s no common ground to be had. You will likely always believe their lethal force is justified, regardless of facts, so we are at an impasse.
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> The two most recent events were both taped, both seemed to be justified in using force. If a tape comes out where someone is killed and they're not fighting ICE agents or hitting them with a car, then I'll agree that it wasn't justified.
Resisting an ICE agent is not a lawful use of lethal force. If you believe it is, you are mistaken and you are free to speak with a legal professional to update your mental model on the topic. Again, we are likely at an impasse based on your belief system (as your statements make it clear you are not speaking from a place of factual evidence based on recent incidents ie "fighting ICE agents or hitting them with a car").
The video in this example shows a citizen being held down and executed by ICE agents. The video also shows he was disarmed before the first shot was fired. Multiple angles are available for review. I am unwilling to argue facts.
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#386Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, whatever it takes. You somehow think it’s incredulous when Pornhub was deplatformed from credit card rails easily, and is still age gated in 23 states through statute. This is far worse, and laws can be made to do whatever the target outcome is. I get it, your mental model differs, and that’s fine. The tools exist and can be used. They could start by blacklisting the BIN of any federal government payment card,…
You are proposing that every customer identify themself for every transaction, and that every store verifies that identity against a state maintained list. "Stop their payment cards" just makes things a little inconvenient for the bad guys. What you are proposing makes everything very inconvenient for everyone. Mental models differ indeed.
That's not what I'm proposing at all.
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#389Why is this being hidden off of the main HN pages? There are clearly enough points for it to be significantly up weighted. I don’t understand the censorship.
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What authority did they have to arrest him? He wasn’t an immigrant covered by a warrant, impeding whatever legitimate tasks they were doing, they chose to walk over to him, chose to initiate physical violence against the first person, chose to escalate when he tried to help the first person the agents assaulted, and the video showed that he was disarmed and subdued before they shot him.