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Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning

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> By definition we know that dems and their publications are only going to show one angle Umm, are you just being purposefully blind? Every angle is being pushed across social media and everyone has seen them. They're all bad. There isn't some large conspiracy to make these agents look bad, what they did is bad and disgusting. I've edited my comment with another angle to make you feel better. > But somehow resisting…

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Hmm... well maybe I need to explain my fear better. Because Pam Bondi/DoJ refuses to prosecute these cases, this will _keep happening_ for the foreseeable future. There's no reason for ICE to stop this behavior. Its not today's crime that scares me most. Its the easily predicted future where this gets worse by next month. The converse is the rise of the far-left. We're already seeing Black Panther patrol with long-gu…

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Republicans and gun rights people do that all the time.

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ICE are not police officers, or even traditional law enforcement officers.

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Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

It is separate from law enforcement with different rules, training, and authority. They enforcement a subset of rules/law. They are not law enforcement in the general sense law enforcement is thought of, no more than Parking Enforcement. For example they can't pull someone over for breaking the law. They don't have authority to enforce all laws, only immigration and customs, and they have much more limited authority to carrying out their duties than REAL law enforcement.

They are immigrations and customs enforcement, not law enforcement. Their minimal training period and requirements indicates as such. The delegated authority of what they are allowed to do indicates as much. But keep building them up to be something more to justify murder of Americans on the streets.

Sorry you don't understand American civics.

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Even in the absolute best case scenario where this just works, the bare minimum retaliation is withholding of federal funds, and I guarantee you any state or state populace in that scenario will blink first.

Blue states fund red states, they are the economic engines of the country. California has the forth largest economy in the world. The federal government has more to lose. Red states are poor. Blue states can simply withhold federal support, keep federal tax revenue in state and let the federal government try to sue for it. I encourage the federal government to try to support itself off of red states. https://usafacts…

I understand that, but you're assuming they also stop paying federal tax altogether? Your initial point was to just not allow federal employees to transact, but now we're quickly entering secession territory. The red states mostly grow the food, anyway. Is Manhattan prepared to starve? Feds may block imports to such a rogue state.

If your point is that states should essentially secede to prevent federal agents from doing anything within, that's possible, but I don't think most citizens of even the bluest state want to secede.

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Watch the video of what led to this. He was standing there filming with his phone, ICE ran up to him and started yelling/pushing. Are you suggesting that him filming was obstructing ICE?

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Who shoot exactly ? i don't understand anything (not sarcasm, i'm in the airport and can't make sense of the vid)

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> Police officers cannot be continuously getting into fights with people, especially armed people

That is their job.

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Republicans and gun rights people do that all the time.

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If the standard is "don't take a gun to a peaceful protest" it's a distinction without a difference.

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With the direction we're headed, there's a non-zero chance that some day soon I'll click on over to https://news.ycombinator.com/active and see "[flagged][dead] US Erupts in Civil War" and I'll click on the comments to see a copied and pasted comment from dang with a link to a dozen other comments explaining why this political story doesn't belong on HN. "Politics" doesn't care about your apolitical spaces. It's comi…

People have been making a version of this argument for as long as I've been doing this job. There is always a feeling of this-time-is-different, how-can-you-not urgency. I'm not saying that's wrong, but there's a counterargument. The counterargument is that political flames have a way of consuming everything they touch and that if we had listened to this argument in the past, HN would have ceased to exist years ago.…

but fighting against a tyrannical, oppressive, illegitimate government is exactly what a hacker would do?

if you want an apolitical forum, don't call it hacker news, it's false advertisement.

maybe call it ostrich news or something.

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