The current link is basically devoid of information, but clicking through to this page shows the two pictures with a slider to move between them: https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-levy-armstrong-crying-... The differences are not subtle
Of course they darkened her skin color.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sony cameras can sign still images and videos to vouch that they are not AI generated: https://authenticity.sony.net/camera/en-us/index.html https://www.sony.eu/presscentre/sony-launches-camera-verify-... Ideally it'd become an open standard supported by all manufacturers. Which is what they're trying to do: https://c2pa.org/
Thank you, this is fantastic to know! I think we have to normalize requiring this or similar standards for news, it will go a long way. Ideally we would have a similar attestation from most people's cameras (on their smartphones) but that's a much harder problem to also support with 3p camera apps.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sony cameras can sign still images and videos to vouch that they are not AI generated: https://authenticity.sony.net/camera/en-us/index.html https://www.sony.eu/presscentre/sony-launches-camera-verify-... Ideally it'd become an open standard supported by all manufacturers. Which is what they're trying to do: https://c2pa.org/
Thank you, this is fantastic to know! I think we have to normalize requiring this or similar standards for news, it will go a long way. Ideally we would have a similar attestation from most people's cameras (on their smartphones) but that's a much harder problem to also support with 3p camera apps.
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#25The WH using social media (X, Pravda Social) for official communication is highly deliberate - they get to declare post-hoc what is actually real communication and what is “just memes”. Of course it won’t make any difference to people amplifying the content. If the WH had to stick to traditional outlets for news they wouldn’t have this fig leaf to hide behind.
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#27I think we're never going to be able to have robust ai detection, and current models are as bad as they'll ever be. Instead we really need to have the ability to sign images on cameras that show these are the bits that came off this hardware unedited, that professional news outlets can verify. But that's going to cost money to make and market all these new cameras and I just don't know how we incentivize or pay for t…
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#29I think we're never going to be able to have robust ai detection, and current models are as bad as they'll ever be. Instead we really need to have the ability to sign images on cameras that show these are the bits that came off this hardware unedited, that professional news outlets can verify. But that's going to cost money to make and market all these new cameras and I just don't know how we incentivize or pay for t…
You will need camera DRM with a hardware security module down all the way to the image sensor, where the hardware is in the hands of the attacker. Even when that chain is unbroken, you'll need to detect all kinds of tricks where the incoming photons themselves are altered. In the simplest case: a photo of a photo.
If HDCP has taught anything, it's that vendors of consumer products cannot implement such a secure chain at all, with ridiculous security vulnerabilities for years. HDCP has been given up and has become mostly irrelevant, perhaps except for the criminal liability it places on 'breaking' it. Vendors are also pushed to rely on security by obscurity, which will make such vulnerabilities harder to find for researchers than for attackers.
If you have half of such a 'signed photos' system in place, it will become easier to dismiss photos of actual events on the basis that they're unsigned. If a camera model or security chip shared by many models turns out to be broken, or a new photo-of-a-photo trick becomes known, a huge amount of photos produced before that, become immediately suspect. If you gatekeep (the proper implementations of) these features only to professional or expensive models, citizen journalism will be disincentivized.
But even more importantly: if you choose to rely on technical measures that are poorly understood by the general public (and that are likely to blow up in your face), you erode a social system of trust that already is in place, which is journalism. Although the rise of social media, illiteracy and fascism tends to suggest otherwise, journalistic chain of custody of photographic records mainly works fine. But only if we keep maintaining and teaching that system.
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#30I remember reading an article about how terrible AI could be in the hands of a regime like China's. What a time to be alive, I guess.