$99/month plus tax is a pretty fucking steep price for any kind of subscription! Holy cow!
I sign up if I want to do a long road trip and cancel after. Worked great for that.
Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
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Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#72How much does braking cost ?
Depends on your social credit score.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#73Wait a minute. My recent-ish car has LKAS. It recognizes white lines (or possibly curbs too) and if both boundaries of the lane are recongized, will steer for you - for 10 seconds maybe, before it nags you provide some steering input. But in those 10 seconds it's perfectly capable of smoothly steering around bends in the road on its own. And it is a useful safety feature even if only nudging the steering wheel while…
Is your car really not connected/connectable?
I have a 2014 car that's connectable but no driver assistance; I had a 2017 (delivered mid 2016) with lane keeping and emergency braking which seemed pretty new and exciting, and it's connectable, all I would need to do is pay a big annual fee and also setup a 3g CDMA network. Couldn't do much with either if it's connected; I pulled the 3g modem from the 2014 when it was convenient cause I was worried it was using power while off.
Not that lane keeping needs a connection, just that I'm surprised they put it on a car without a modem.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#74Is the article confused or will there literally be no lane-keeping without the subscription? Because nowadays every car rental place bottom of the barrel Kia has lane-keeping.
Tesla’s “autosteer” is significantly more advanced than the “lane keeping” feature I’ve seen in rental cars, or my own 2023 Jeep. My understanding is that autosteer will actively keep the car centered in the middle of the lane, while the “lane keeping” I’ve experienced will only adjust the steering when you approach the lane edge, which pin balls you back and forth like a drunk driver.
I went with that example because I had a Kia Sportage from Hertz and it had lane centering (not just the thing that detects you are deviating from the lane). It did want you to touch the steering wheel but that's just cheaper driver monitoring.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#75These sort of shenanigans for even basic lanekeeping makes a very strong case for more open source solutions like comma
Pressing the lane assistant button on a Mercedes steering wheel and getting a “you’ll need to activate your subscription first” message really drove up my blood pressure.
And the EU companies are surprised a lot of people buy Chinese now.
Screw the subscriptions. I don't care how much the shareholders want them.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#76Our 2020 Model S came with Autopilot. It was part of the purchase price.
We don't use FSD, we don't use Autopilot either.
But I'll be goddamed if he tries to take away something I paid for.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#77I would gladly pay $99/month if this was honest FSD. I started tracking my time consistently since end of December and in the past 2 weeks I spend 23 hours driving. That's already only $4/hour. I haven't been keeping up with the progress in this space. Last I heard, Benz introduced some sort of self driving feature AND accepted full liability for it (whereas Tesla does not). How does Benz's self driving compare to Te…
We've had FSD trial for 4 months in the middle of last year. I work from home so I can't really justify $100 a month. However, we did take a few trips (about 60 miles in each direction) to see family through downtown LA.
I was honestly stunned by how far the tech has come. It basically drove us door to door without a single intervention.
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#78Just like all subscriptions this kills my interest in it. Tech is only interesting if it isn’t locked in a corporate data center.
you must be really bored with pretty much all the popular tech today then
Re: Tesla kills Autopilot, locks lane-keeping behind $99/month fee
#79Wait a minute. My recent-ish car has LKAS. It recognizes white lines (or possibly curbs too) and if both boundaries of the lane are recongized, will steer for you - for 10 seconds maybe, before it nags you provide some steering input. But in those 10 seconds it's perfectly capable of smoothly steering around bends in the road on its own. And it is a useful safety feature even if only nudging the steering wheel while…
IMO; you should try the product. The car basically drives me everywhere with no interventions, including on errands around SF. Just plug in where via the Google Maps view.
I’ve been paying the monthly for a while. Very worth it to me.