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EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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This + abolish VAT. The amount of money stolen in VAT scams is jn bilions of euros.

This + only pay taxes where the company is founded, not where you live at that moment in time. That's what the personal income tax is for.. and all the other taxes payed by the individual. That way countries can compete in being the best environment for companies.

Yes please. The whole centre of interest. Form company in Estonia, move yourself to Spain. But hey lets tax the company in spain :D

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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This doesnt fix the issue with taxation right? You would stull have to figure out where to pay taxes if you have customers from different countries.

What issue? VAT is paid by the user (collected and remitted by you) and differs by country (used to be hassle, easy today), but the taxes you pay in your country for your company is the same regardless of where the users who paid you are based (assuming there isn't something country-specific about that), it's more about where your company is tax-resident. Unless there are permanent-establishment issues, withholding t…

Yes the issue is i form company in Estonia because i like their non distribution taxes. Or in czechia because i live there. Then move to spain. And they decide to tax the company in spain… with high taxes.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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It's inordinately difficult and expensive to start an LLC or SA in some EU countries. It's even difficult and expensive to _stop_ an LLC and dissolve it. Huge amount of risk and cost on founders and a huge distraction from running a business. I think that EU-Inc _could_ be an improvement, but it needs to avoid the committee laundry list of ideas/requirements/form fields that plagues the EU startup ecosystem. My worry…

Yeah, since there's lots of countries and some are very dynamic and modern, maybe they could act as early adopters. But don't stop there: if it works for the early adopters, others could also apply their lessons. For example Estonia is often mentioned in electronic government etc.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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90s is charitable. Most important thing here is that nothing changes. Everything new is considered suspicious.

The weird thing is that, at least as an Estonian, I would've never expected this from Germany. Italy, Spain? Sure. Germany? That just feels weird.

Germany is incredibly under developed in the digitalization plus the amount of red tape to do even basic things is also very large as well. Getting rid of these things takes a lot of will power and at the moment there is very little.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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As a Dutch person I never understood this push until someone told me (and this is true in 2026!!!) that if you open a LLC (Gmbh?) in Germany you have to physically go to the notary and have a person READ OUT all the statutes to you. The whole process including banks accounts etc... can apparently take months in total. Personally I would not create "EU-INC" but just make all local entities legal in every country. Then…

> you have to physically go to the notary and have a person READ OUT all the statutes to you.

I guess, you've never bought a house in the Netherlands then, because it's the same exact process

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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> a company should be able to register in x days Which EU bureaucrats will fully pass by treating this as "a company should be able to register in x days once the full set of documents has been collected".

Companies are treated like persons legally and while I'm sure there is too much bureaucracy in many places, I'm also sure that there are important documents that should be required. For example to make sure that a company can be held responsible when it breaks the law. There are already enough loopholes to disconnect legal responsibility from profit-taking, and not every company is benign. Sure, if the documents cann…

> For example to make sure that a company can be held responsible when it breaks the law.

This is the reason Germany hates small companies. Germany wants you to be a sole trader with no liability shield.

Some people hack the system by registering a company in another EU state such as Lithuania.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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@dang This post is an Ad for unofficial merch, profiting from an ongoing news story. Should we change the URL ? https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/da/speech... https://tech.eu/2026/01/20/the-european-commission-launches-...

This is the official page of the EU-INC lobby group.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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this isn't fully true yes you company needs to be rooted in a specific country, and sure moving company roots between countries is still not always trivial (anti capital flight laws are a thing). But that isn't really in conflict with a EU INC per-se. I mean they do point out that it will have > Local taxes & employment and this isn't in conflict with - the same business form being available in all EU members - centr…

> - Standardized investment documents All investments I took part of implied a lot of back and forth on conditions adapted to the specific case, preferences, fears, etc. I have doubts that "standardization" can be reasonable achieved here. > - Standardized EU-wide stock options EU does not have attributions on tax, it's the national governments that do (see https://european-union.europa.eu/priorities-and-actions/acti…

the proposal itself, and my comments, say no tax will be on country basis, that doesn't block standardized stock options. It just means that on monetization events taxes you pay on stocks might differ (they anyway will depending on where you live independent on anything on the company side).

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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Having a startup in the US is a huge mess due to all the states and taxes, if Europe can make everything digital AND easier, it's a no brainer for us to move our company there.

>>Having a startup in the US is a huge mess due to all the states and taxes, In EU you will need to deal with VAT basically from day one (10k EUR of revenue). In US you will not deal with it until you can afford it as thresholds are very generous.

At least in Germany, this is not correct. You do not have to pay that unless: You earned more than €100,000 this year or more than €25,000 last year.

Re: EU–INC – A new pan-European legal entity

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> The grassroot movement is from https://proposal.eu-inc.org So correct me if I had way too little coffee, but that subdomain is under eu-inc.org meaning eu-inc.org is in fact the grassroot movement then? I don't understand the complaint, seems to be the right people? You're mad about that they also sell hats?

Apologies, misred that part, but I maintain the rest of my argument. This is unofficial, pushing for merch, 5 lines of info page, and should not have replaced a post about more detailed news reports.

How can you maintain the rest of your argument when the entire basis for said argument been proven wrong? It's not "profiting from an ongoing news story" when they literally created what this news story is about!
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