Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand. Are you implying that Greenland can decide to sell itself then?
Countries can be sold?
EU chief says EU should abandon caution after Bessent calls Denmark 'irrelevant'
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#22Escalate to deescalate. Trump doesn’t understand that Greenland is a ~country~ self-gorverning territory in itself in the Kingdom of Denmark. Just like Australia is country in itself in the Commonwealth. England would never be able to sell Australia to the US, just as we in Denmark are not able to sell Greenland. The only way forward is trade war it seems and it would be better to escalate it quickly in order for Tru…
> Just like Australia is country in itself in the Commonwealth. That’s really not even close. Greenland isn’t even remotely self sustainable without Danish funding. It also has MPs in the Danish parliament. So yes while it technically has self-rule it’s still effectively a colony
So whatever proposal or threat of breaking down NATO that Trump will come up with will be met with a no from Danish politicians. It is simply not for them to decide. His only option seen from a Danish perspective is to use the military.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re part of an independent kingdom can you decide to become part of another kingdom? Asking for an kingdom I know.
Sadly we, the "good guys", created a dangerous precedent in the balkans when Kosovo unilaterally split from Serbia, under foreign (NATO) occupation moreover. International law does not promote nor support unilateral secessions. If a region or autonomous republic wants to secede it should only do so in accordance to the host country laws. E.g. the Quebec and Scotland referendums were made in accordance to the host cou…
This is a very insightful answer to my snarky cynic comment.
And you’re right, of course. We dug our own grave.
Re: EU chief says EU should abandon caution after Bessent calls Denmark 'irrelevant'
#24Escalate to deescalate. Trump doesn’t understand that Greenland is a ~country~ self-gorverning territory in itself in the Kingdom of Denmark. Just like Australia is country in itself in the Commonwealth. England would never be able to sell Australia to the US, just as we in Denmark are not able to sell Greenland. The only way forward is trade war it seems and it would be better to escalate it quickly in order for Tru…
If you’re part of an independent kingdom can you decide to become part of another kingdom? Asking for an kingdom I know.
It may not be straightforward, however; as Linebarger states:
> Formally, war may be defined as the "reciprocal application of violence by public, armed bodies."
> If it is not reciprocal, it is not war, the killing of persons who do not defend themselves is not war, but slaughter, massacre, or punishment.
> If the bodies involved are not public, their violence is not war. Even our enemies in World War II were relatively careful about this distinction, because they did not know how soon or easily a violation of the rules might be scored against them. To be public, the combatants need not be legal—that is, constitutionally set up; it suffices, according to international usage, for the fighters to have a reasonable minimum of numbers, some kind of identification, and a purpose which is political. If you shoot your neighbor, you will be committing mere murder; but if you gather twenty or thirty friends, together, tie a red handkerchief around the left arm of each man, announce that you are out to overthrow the government of the United States, and then shoot your neighbor as a counterrevolutionary impediment to the new order of things, you can have the satisfaction of having waged war. (In practical terms, this means that you will be put to death for treason and rebellion, not merely for murder.)
> ...
Note that this advice was from the mid-XX; in the XXI not all kingdoms seem to recognise the Geneva Conventions anymore!
These days it's probably a case of conjugating irregular verbs?
I am a (dissident turned) freedom fighter
You are a (perfidious) combatant
They are (drug-running) terroristsRe: EU chief says EU should abandon caution after Bessent calls Denmark 'irrelevant'
#25Escalate to deescalate. Trump doesn’t understand that Greenland is a ~country~ self-gorverning territory in itself in the Kingdom of Denmark. Just like Australia is country in itself in the Commonwealth. England would never be able to sell Australia to the US, just as we in Denmark are not able to sell Greenland. The only way forward is trade war it seems and it would be better to escalate it quickly in order for Tru…
Greenland is not a country, it is a self-governing territory within the Kingdom of Denmark.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand. Are you implying that Greenland can decide to sell itself then?
Countries can be sold?
It’s like a sleight of hand magic trick pulled on an infant that is then gleeful for the deception.
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#28Its so bad that these day such posts are flagged in HN and you cannot have any discussion about it. Feels like censorship and HN not doing anything about it to be at least transparent about providing some stats how many times something got flagged and how flagging algorithm works so we at least have some confidence that it's not abused by bots
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
France could do an atmospheric nuclear test. That would probably wake the senile idiot up.
I am happy that some Hacker News commenters are not running countries. One wacko is more than enough. The risks are totally not worth it and there are a million better ways to increase pressure (like the trade bazooka).
This is an incoherent position. If the threat is as real as claimed, a simple weapon test should be merited. France's official nuclear doctrine permits first strikes anyway.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you’re part of an independent kingdom can you decide to become part of another kingdom? Asking for an kingdom I know.
Sadly we, the "good guys", created a dangerous precedent in the balkans when Kosovo unilaterally split from Serbia, under foreign (NATO) occupation moreover. International law does not promote nor support unilateral secessions. If a region or autonomous republic wants to secede it should only do so in accordance to the host country laws. E.g. the Quebec and Scotland referendums were made in accordance to the host cou…