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Our approach to age prediction

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Re: Our approach to age prediction

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post #3

This title gave me a weird feeling as if they were going to predict my own age.

Maybe at some point they will graduate to being able to predict who I am from "Friends"

exactly, i`m genuinely impress by how few people here have figure this

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#72
post #18

> Viral challenges that could encourage risky or harmful behavior in minors Why would it encourage this for anyone?

Hey Al, they might be implying that non-minors would be impervious to the viral challenges based on some sort of well-developed critical thinking facilities. I am not so optimistic.

A lot of people are using AI as a trusted friend, because they don't really have anyone else. A good friend would, I hope, talk someone out of doing something dangerous just to get a silly viral video. With AI being trained on the internet, that's going to have a very different take on things, as the internet only cares about the spectacle, not the person performing it.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not much for the regulators as much as its for the advertisers. At this point, just use gemini (yes its google and has its issues if you need SOTA) or I have recently been trying out more and more chat.z.ai for simple text issues (like hey can you fix this docker issue etc.) and I feel like chat.z.ai is pretty good plus open source models (honestly chat.z.ai feels pretty SOTA to me)

Kagi's Assistant is the most useful tool I've found as far as searching goes, and occasionally simple codegen. Let's you use a wide variety of models and isn't tracking me.

If we are talking about complete privacy. I am trying out https://confer.to (created by signal team) too and I am unable to run it on my mac (passkey support)(I tried it both in zen & orion) but I tried it on an android chrome (tablet) and I am kinda more optimistic about it too

I have heard good things about Kagi in fact, that's the reason why I tried orion and still have it in the first place but I haven't bought Kagi, I just used the free searches orion gives & I don't know if it has Kagi's assistant.

I think proton's Lumo is another good bet.

If you want something to not track you, I once asked cerebras team on their discord if they track the queries and responses from their website try now feature and they said that they don't. I don't really see a reason why they might lie about it given that its only meant for very basic purposes & they don't train models or anything.

You also get one of the fastest inferences for models including GLM 4.7 (which z.ai uses)

You might not get search results though but for search related queries duck.ai's pretty good and you can always mix and match.

But Cerebras recently got a 10 billion $ investment from OpenAI and I Have been critical of them from now on so do be wary now.

Kagi Assistant does seem to be good if someone already uses Kagi or has a subscription of it from what I feel like.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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Pretty cool. Evidence that you can do whatever you want under the banner of 'protecting the kids.'

Protecting the kids and fighting terror. Anything that can't be argued against is always used as a justification of people in power who don't want to incite a riot.

Politicians, CEOs, Lawyers it's standard practice because it's so effective.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#76
post #34

Everyone's saying this is for advertising, but I don't think it is. It's so they can let ChatGPT sext with adults.

Do you expect the data collected for age verification will be completely separate from the advertising apparatus? I would expect the incentives would align for this to enhance their advertising options.

I'll almost certainly get used for both, but I believe "adult content" is the primary motivator. If it was just for ads they wouldn't even bother announcing it as a "feature", they'd just do it.

Also:

"Users can check if safeguards have been added to their account and start this process at any time by going to Settings > Account."

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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post #25
post #9

>behavioral and account-level signals, including how long an account has existed, typical times of day when someone is active, usage patterns over time, and a user’s stated age. Surely they're using "history of the user-inputted chat" as a signal and just choosing not to highlight that? Because that would make it so much easier to predict age.

Chat history would be a good signal to predict age until you give kids a reason to try to confound it.

I, for one, would love to see the gen alphas tiktoking about what 401k questions to type into chatgpt

Re: Our approach to age prediction

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post #16

They're trying to make ChatGPT more attractive to advertisers.

I hope Anthropic or someone pulls an Apple and has the taste to say no to ads. Maybe it will just be Apple. (Even their resistance is slowly fading..) We don't need to jam ads into every orifice. I hope there's more value to be had not doing ads than there is to include them. I'd cancel my codex/chatgpt/claude if someone planted the flag. OpenAI seems to think it has infinite trust to burn.

You give too much credit to Apple in the AI age. Especially since they've already partnered with Google to power Siri with Gemini now.

Apple is a has-been. Anthropic is best positioned to take up the privacy mantle, and may even be forced to, given that most of their revenue is enterprise and B2B.

Re: Our approach to age prediction

#80
post #38

It's nonsense and doesn't work. They have "age predicted" my account a couple of months back saying I'm under 18, while I'm a man in my 40s who uses ChatGPT for mostly work related stuff, and nothing that would indicate that it's someone under 18. So now they are asking for a government ID to prove it. Yeah, no thanks.

No more typing "how is babby formed" I guess.

"Am I pregante"
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