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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by skylurk »

delfinom wrote: post #146
echelon wrote: post #32

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It ought to be illegal to host ads for registered trademarks (+/- some edit distance). Especially if you have a marketplace monopoly. Especially if you used overwhelming force to turn the "URL Bar" into a search product and then bought up 90% market share where you can tax every single brand on the planet. Google is the most egregious with this with respect to Google Search. It ought to be illegal, frankly. Google An…

Advertising alternatives to trademarked names is completely legal in every sense. It's known as comparative advertising and is established for more than a century. You simply cannot pretend to be that trademark product/business and you cannot disparage that trademark.

Trademarks differentiate products. App Store is full of shady clones with near identical icons, screenshots and names that differ from the original by a few letters.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by pmdr »

Noaidi wrote: post #77
Y-bar wrote: post #61

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It seems a significant amount of that revenue is now from services (App Store, in-app purchases, subscriptions,…).

Yes! And these are very easy to boycott! I don’t understand why this didn’t happen after Tim Cook shove that gold bar right up Trump’s ass.

This leads me to believe that most boycotts gain traction only if another corporation stands to benefit from that. Nowadays pretty much all of the big players are in bed with the current administration, so there's little surprise that boycotts aren't noticeable.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by lern_too_spel »

asdff wrote: post #227
TheDong wrote: post #136

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> inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps If you move to the EU you can change the default navigation app on iOS and never see apple maps. A plan to display ads would explain why they region locked that setting.

You can remove the maps app in the US too.

You can remove the default navigation app, but you can't set the default navigation app to something else. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/MapKit/preparing-y...

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by dormento »

mdasen wrote: post #21

This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search ( https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google... ). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't. Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like t…

> just with a small "sponsored", "promoted", or "ad" mark somewhere

And often, the only reason they do that is due to legal requirements.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by lern_too_spel »

spockz wrote: post #112

This is very unfortunate. To me Apple was the last corporate standing that is not doing ads nefariously. If this is changing what is next? I’m aware it is a slippery slope argument, but this has to do with trust. Apple’s advertised stance on privacy and security and ads always has been believable (to me) because of their business model and that they made it the distinguishing feature. Now, what is left? iPads are gre…

As with security and privacy, the only real solution is user choice. On Android, if you don't like the app store(s) that came with the device, you can use another one or none at all. On iOS, you have to get apps from the App Store.

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Post by Loudergood »

eastbound wrote: post #107
Marsymars wrote: post #96

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> It ought to be illegal to host ads for registered trademarks (+/- some edit distance). This makes me a bit uncomfortable because of how close it comes to infringing on freedom of speech, and how specific a rule it would for search engines (and chat bots) - i.e. there's no real analogy of "can't target trademarked terms" for any ad format other than search engines. I think my preference would be to simply enforce la…

Let’s remember it’s not new: Back in 2005, gannies (and 20yo non-nerds too) would install all sorts of viruses by clicking on popups thinking it’s the real thing. I personally switched to Firefox then Mac which didn’t have this problem. It’s like browsing a torrent website without an adblocker: There is absolutely no way to hit the right button, it’s URL changes between mousedown and mouseup.

Putting adblock in my moms browser was basically the end of weekly support calls.

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Post by kmbfjr »

darkteflon wrote: post #147

Ffs. Alright, what’s the best way for me to run Silverblue on Mac hardware these days with a full GPU-accelerated desktop experience? Is UTM any good? Any alternatives? I used to run Win 10 in Parallels on MacOS and it was excellent - that’s the level of virtualisation polish I’m going for. After 25+ years, I see the direction of travel - I’m done with this bullshit. Yesterday my MacBook started ringing loudly in the…

I think the issue ends up being the Linux desktop experience makes one need to fix their own shit after a long day of fixing other people's shit.

That's one thing about MacOS, I can leave the driving to someone else. Increasingly, that driving is to places I dislike, but I'm still not driving.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by encom »

Terr_ wrote: post #249
mdasen wrote: post #21

This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search ( https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google... ). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't. Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like t…

Found a series of Google screenshots over time, although some of the search terms are questionable. :p https://blog.scaledon.com/p/the-evolution-of-google-ads

Ironically, as I scrolled a few pages down that site, the content was blocked by a popup and I closed the tab.

The internet is over. Pack it up.

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