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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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MaxL93 wrote: post #117
rgovostes wrote: post #104

This makes no difference, because I can’t remember the last time I installed an app other than for the occasional airline. From 2008-12 it was genuinely exciting to see what new apps were being released every day. Mobile games from that era had cultural impact. I bought $2 apps without a thought. But Apple incentivized monetization above all else and killed that excitement. Now you can’t find a tip calculator that do…

The same thing is happening on the Android side. If you've made a game, it doesn't matter how high quality it is, how many awards it has won, etc. The only thing that matters is that it's live service, that it doesn't "have an end", that it can drive engagement and perpetual revenue. Quite a few testimonies from game devs: according to them, Google representatives pretty much told them this. See also: the requirement…

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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cdrnsf wrote: post #201
drnick1 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. As long as you decide to stay in Apple's jail. Next time you need or want a new phone, buy a Pixel 9a for $399 on sale, flash Graphene, and you can be 100% Apple and Google free. It's even better when paired with FOSS apps only like Nextcloud and Home Assistant.

My family has made it clear that I need to be available on iMessage or I'd be right there with you.

Why? There is literally no difference. imessage is seamless with sms and mms.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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TheDong wrote: post #208
drnick1 wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPhones default to sending plain old texts to non-Apple devices so it's hardly an issue unless you don't have a phone number.

iMessage and RCS have some very different affordances, and apple keeps it that way to keep people walled into the system. Most notably, a single non-iMessage member in a group chat will degrade the experience for everyone significantly. It's very much an issue in the US.

By "degrade the experience" you mean you get a text that says "TheDong liked $message." The horror! Maybe people will go back to just sending a thumbs up emoji.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by morshu9001 »

kibwen wrote: post #26
nabbed wrote: post #16

>it probably helps increase click-through rates which ultimately boosts Apple’s revenue in its ads business I assume that means it increases the number of times users install the wrong app (possibly with serious consequences)?

Why should Apple give a shit? Companies like Apple are sociopathic profit-maximizers, and users are cattle to be milked and slaughtered.

They still don't want users to leave. Yeah they can get away with stuff like removing the jack or being slightly annoying about iCloud, but things would be way worse if they didn't care at all.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by dodos »

drnick1 wrote: post #209
TheDong wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iMessage and RCS have some very different affordances, and apple keeps it that way to keep people walled into the system. Most notably, a single non-iMessage member in a group chat will degrade the experience for everyone significantly. It's very much an issue in the US.

Then use a vendor-agnostic platform instead for group chats like Signal or Matrix.

It would be great if people actually did this, but in the US that is not the case. There are only so many people you can convince to move off of their main platform, and usually you have to meet people where they are.

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Post by asdff »

TheDong wrote: post #136
cdrnsf wrote: post #41

Not only are Apple's services bad, they've becoming inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps as soon as next year. Music.app is simply an ad for Apple Music, Books.app is like reading in a Barnes and Noble while someone from marketing looks over your shoulder and their TV app features their own shows to an overbearing degree — everything else is becoming more of an afterthought.

> inescapable. It's rumored that they'll add ads to maps If you move to the EU you can change the default navigation app on iOS and never see apple maps. A plan to display ads would explain why they region locked that setting.

You can remove the maps app in the US too.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by nvader »

morshu9001 wrote: post #223

I read the title then looked at the screenshots and thought what? It still says "ad."

Paragraph two of the article is:

> This means the only differentiator between organic results and the promoted ad is the presence of the small ‘Ad’ banner next to the app icon.

If it's that easy to fail to notice a paragraph, how much easier would it be to miss just the word 'Ad'?

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Post by rtpg »

morshu9001 wrote: post #223

I read the title then looked at the screenshots and thought what? It still says "ad."

It is kinda interesting how like every company seems to go through this flow of highlighting that something is an ad (usually even with some differing background color like what Google used to do!), and then they just pull back differentiators more and more until it really is the smallest minimal marker possible
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