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Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is what basically everyone else has done over the past decade. Google used to put a different background behind ads in its search (https://www.fsedigital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Google...). It made it really easy to tell what was an ad and skip over it quickly. Now it's a lot harder to quickly notice what's an ad and what isn't.

Sites used to have banner ads. Now they show posts that look exactly like the organic posts in your feed, just with a small "sponsored", "promoted", or "ad" mark somewhere. Half the time the post is large enough that it takes up my entire screen and the "sponsored" mark is below and off-screen.

If you go on Amazon, the "sponsored" text is much smaller and light gray rgb(87,89,89) while the product text is near-black rgb(15,17,17). They want to make the sponsored text less visible. Sometimes it's even unclear if the sponsored tag applies to a single product or a group of products.

It's shocking that Apple hasn't done this trick yet when everyone else started doing it years ago.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Has Nadella had one original thought? He simply passes through whatever the board orders.

> Has Nadella had one original thought? He simply passes through whatever the board orders. No. But for mega-tech CEO salary, I’d probably do exactly the same.

It takes a person with massive personality disorder to do this kind of stuff. I'm glad I'm not doing it, whatever the amounts of money in play.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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This is the Apple I've always worried would emerge.

Capitalism pretty much demands it. Some companies can delay it for awhile, but the numbers must go up and eventually expansion because of a better product reaches it's natural limit.

Basically, yes.

With compensation so completely tied to "did our stock go up since you joined?", it's a whole thing.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Wont make a difference. People are already in the Walled Prison and moms/teens/lower-middle class people are shamed for not being able to afford the $50/mo to buy an iphone. They had numerous privacy and security issues that caused literal deaths of VIPs. Their quality is always 2nd best if we are being generous. If they haven't switched yet, its not going to happen. Apple knows this. Late users are always punished l…

Quality is 2nd best to what? And people haven't switched to what? Android? The situation is no better on Google OS.

Apple's App Store ad initiatives have always been woeful, and doubt it makes enough revenue to warrant a separate line item on their public accounting reports. Some executive has seen yet another overfunded company potentially making bank with an ad-based business model (OpenAI, et al.), and has thought they could extract Google-level ad revenue due to the App Store's exclusivity. It could also be a response to potentially competing App Stores given their rocky relationship with the EU.

It will have little effect, on revenue or user experience. The greater tragedy is the organisational decay that led to this being greenlit in the first place.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Has Nadella had one original thought? He simply passes through whatever the board orders. No. But for mega-tech CEO salary, I’d probably do exactly the same.

It takes a person with massive personality disorder to do this kind of stuff. I'm glad I'm not doing it, whatever the amounts of money in play.

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Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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>it probably helps increase click-through rates which ultimately boosts Apple’s revenue in its ads business I assume that means it increases the number of times users install the wrong app (possibly with serious consequences)?

Why should Apple give a shit? Companies like Apple are sociopathic profit-maximizers, and users are cattle to be milked and slaughtered.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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I find that's the case already. They also force you to go through their ad-splattered gauntlet, every time you reopen the app.

It's pretty much worthless, to me. I always use direct app links, from the developers' sites.

I shudder to think of it getting worse.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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Services business is a slippery slope, everyone succumbs to the YoY revenue growth push and they all gravitate towards the same dirty tactics. They even tried turning the hardware into a subscription model but I guess it didn’t gain much traction.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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The lines where pretty blurred already. If you search for the exact name of an app, I think that needs to go first in the results, the ads can be the third or forth. Having ads show up before the "correct" app is incredibly dangerous in a world where so much of our digital life is in various apps. Often the people see is actively trying to trick people into installing the wrong thing, making the ad less visible is going to get a lot of people scammed.

How the hell Apple does not see this is beyond me. All of their fancy security in iOS is worthless if they allow people to be tricked into installing scam-ware.

Re: Apple testing new App Store design that blurs the line between ads and results

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More and more evidence that the a-holes with spreadsheets are taking over at Apple and they’re completely devoid of any ideas on the software side. I heard someone randomly say that they should replace Tim Cook with Scott Forstall. I chuckled at the idea but this might be a great idea. Apple is having its Ballmer moment. Google did too before AI lit the fire under their feet. Who is going to be Apple’s next Nadella?…

What has Nadella done for Windows users? It appears to me that Windows is becoming every bit as enshittified as macOS, if not more so. And isn't Microsoft experimenting with advertisements in Windows?

How is MacOS as enshittified as Windows? It doesn't have ads, doesn't push AI on you, their online services are trivial to ignore once and never think about again, etc. I haven't tried Tahoe, and sure, its new glass UI is shit, but merely incompetent UI design is not "enshittification" and is not in any way equivalent to what Microsoft does in Windows.
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