Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released • Hacker News Board

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by tomrod » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 10:54 AM UTC

tresta wrote: post #23

vibrunazo wrote: post #16

One word of advice, don't do the automatic upgrade, do a full reinstall instead. After trying that for the last 5 or so releases. Always thinking that this time they fixed it. I'm not falling for that again. You'll see, as always, some reports of people saying they tried and it worked. But be careful, it's a trap!

I really don't understand why the upgrade seems to be so hit and miss between people. My current laptop has been on the same ubuntu install since (at least) 10.04. I've even upgraded to beta versions a couple of times and the only problem I've ever had was when I upgraded to the 12.10 beta and it ran out of disk space in the middle of the install. But that was recoverable. Of course, this comment might be a trap. The…

For me, I put on nonstandard software that gets removed. Sometimes software sources aren't preserved--especially if I have messed with GUI configurations.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by arocks » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 10:56 AM UTC

lhnn wrote: post #26

Everyone has their own preferred setup, and that's great! It's part of what makes FOSS great: Your choice. My choice is Xubuntu. I've been using Xubuntu on my laptop for the past 6 months, and the 12.10 beta for the past two. The link below is my tasklist after install to really make Xubuntu shine. Oh! And now with updates to the Ubiquity installer, FDE can be done with the GUI instead of fiddling with the debian-ins…

Thanks for this. I have been on the lookout for a lightweight OS like Crunchbag to upgrade my desktop from Ubuntu 10.10. Being a intermediate user, I do not want a lot of bells and whistles but appreciate a more responsive system. I manage a lot of Ubuntu servers so I would prefer an Ubuntu development environment as well. In fact, I am seriously considering using a virtual machine for this purpose.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by tomrod » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 10:58 AM UTC

pimentel wrote: post #24

"includes Python 3.2.3 as standard" Won't this have any impact on existing python installers, designed to be used with python 2.x?

Obi says it best:

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by mahmud » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:05 AM UTC

vibrunazo wrote: post #16

One word of advice, don't do the automatic upgrade, do a full reinstall instead. After trying that for the last 5 or so releases. Always thinking that this time they fixed it. I'm not falling for that again. You'll see, as always, some reports of people saying they tried and it worked. But be careful, it's a trap!

Not my experience. I went through 3 automatic upgrades, desktops and servers. All smooth.

Ubuntu is the best <3

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by blaze33 » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:08 AM UTC

pimentel wrote: post #24

"includes Python 3.2.3 as standard" Won't this have any impact on existing python installers, designed to be used with python 2.x?

cf. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Bet...

"Python 2 will continue to be available (as the python package) for the foreseeable future. However, to best support future versions of Ubuntu you should consider porting your code to Python 3."

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by blaze33 » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:12 AM UTC

rlpb wrote: post #4

As of 0842 UTC, it's not actually released yet. The link still refers to 12.04. Ars appear to have jumped the gun a little.

1109 UTC, not yet released. Kind of surprised there's no countdown this time ^^

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by BitMastro » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:12 AM UTC

lhnn wrote: post #26

Everyone has their own preferred setup, and that's great! It's part of what makes FOSS great: Your choice. My choice is Xubuntu. I've been using Xubuntu on my laptop for the past 6 months, and the 12.10 beta for the past two. The link below is my tasklist after install to really make Xubuntu shine. Oh! And now with updates to the Ubiquity installer, FDE can be done with the GUI instead of fiddling with the debian-ins…

I was so fond of Ubuntu before they introduced Unity or Gnome 3. It was so responsive, easy enough for a beginner, yet it was not in the way for an expert user (apart for the lack of regex in the default editor, perhaps). I tried Xubuntu, Kubuntu and other distros, but I kept going back to the default Ubuntu one. I used it as my only OS for years, but now sadly it's the opposite and I boot it only when I need it.

I guess I should give up trying to like Ubuntu and start using XFCE instead. Thank you for your list, I will use it to check this desktop environment.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by aw3c2 » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:17 AM UTC

pimentel wrote: post #24

"includes Python 3.2.3 as standard" Won't this have any impact on existing python installers, designed to be used with python 2.x?

Awesome! Does anyone know if that means that "python" is python 3 then? Or do they still use 2 for "python" and just add eg a new binary named "python3" by default?

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by acheron » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:19 AM UTC

vibrunazo wrote: post #16

One word of advice, don't do the automatic upgrade, do a full reinstall instead. After trying that for the last 5 or so releases. Always thinking that this time they fixed it. I'm not falling for that again. You'll see, as always, some reports of people saying they tried and it worked. But be careful, it's a trap!

Huh, really? I've never had an issue and been doing the automatic upgrade for quite awhile. This is for the Server version though; I would believe it if the Desktop one is more fragile.

Re: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal released

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Post by aes256 » Thu, Oct 18, 2012, 11:36 AM UTC

regularfry wrote: post #39

digisign wrote: post #13

It's not yet released and ars didn't say it was released, rather: Ars has its hands on 12.10 and we'll be bringing you a full review within the next couple of weeks.

Maybe we are reading a different article: Today, Canonical has released version 12.10 of its Ubuntu Linux distribution, code-named "Quantal Quetzal" after a ridiculously awesome-looking bird.

Yet it hasn't actually been released. The download links on the website all point to 12.04, and 12.10 is not available through the update manager yet either.

Looks like Ars jumped the gun.