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American importers and consumers bear the cost of 2025 tariffs: analysis

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Post by ellisv »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #103
vlovich123 wrote: post #61

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Specifically Congress. The President doesn’t have the right to create taxes which is one key difference here. The argument is whether Congress abdicated their power here and whether that’s something they can do in the first place.

> The argument is whether Congress abdicated their power here and whether that’s something they can do in the first place. It would seem that as elected representatives of the people (we are literally their boss), they can't do that without asking us first. The whole point of them existing is to give us power and limit the executive's power, not the opposite.

It's called the nondelegation doctrine, which forbids one branch of government from authorizing another branch of government to exercise its functions.

Because Article One vests "all legislative powers" to Congress, they cannot delegate legislative powers to the Executive and Judicial branches (because then not all legislative powers would be vested with Congress).

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Post by riffraff »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #266
PaulRobinson wrote: post #106

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A lot of Americans believed the guy they wanted to believe in, because they didn't want to believe the people they didn't want to believe in. You're assuming that modern politics across most of the World has something to do with rational, logical thought. Russia, China, Europe, the US, the Middle East - they are all in a quagmire of irrational fractures between the public and the political classes who want power/cont…

You are using "believed" - past tense. Facts change nothing. This report means nothing. These people still believe. The report is wrong. They are right. The truth is whatever they want it to be, not something out of their control.

I have a friend who works with american tourists visiting europe, mostly older folks, mostly to religious sights. They are, for the vast majority, indoctrinated beyond any chance of reasonable change of opinion.

Talking with him makes _me_ worry about my own beliefs, because if these people can be so blind, maybe I am too.

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Post by biophysboy »

kryogen1c wrote: post #168

Almost all the comments acting like this is some truth bombshell, like people in trumpistan all thought raising tariffs magically made the us economy better. This is a straw man, no? Tariffs are a mid-long term strategy to encourage onshoring business, for reasons including military, national security, and political influence on foreign powers. This is a complicated topic involving the global economy and evolving int…

There were many explanations given by the administration to justify the tariffs. One of them was that it would improve domestic manufacturing; another was that it would improve national security. The tariffs are (so far) not advancing either goal. Tech is getting so many tariff carve-outs that I am suspicious they ever will.

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Post by spiderfarmer »

nathan_compton wrote: post #247
BanAntiVaxxers wrote: post #214

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She’s known to own firearms. I wonder what would happen if one of these Democrat candidates released a video like “A girl and her Glock: Kamala goes John Wick”. Similarly, AOC should visit the south, eat some grits, volunteer with some Black churches, and do a little skeet shooting with some good ole boys.

It would be perceived as pandering bullshit from either of them. What the democrats need is an aggressive economic policy that actually will manifestly improve regular people's lives. If they cannot articulate such a thing and credibly convince the voter that they will fucking fight for it, they will never win.

I don’t care about the US anymore but it seems to me it’s always up to the Democrats to be responsible, while Republicans can literally end democracy and turn the country into a pay to play kleptocracy where you can even be intimate with children without consequences or backlash.

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Post by LtWorf »

nathan_compton wrote: post #247
BanAntiVaxxers wrote: post #214

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She’s known to own firearms. I wonder what would happen if one of these Democrat candidates released a video like “A girl and her Glock: Kamala goes John Wick”. Similarly, AOC should visit the south, eat some grits, volunteer with some Black churches, and do a little skeet shooting with some good ole boys.

It would be perceived as pandering bullshit from either of them. What the democrats need is an aggressive economic policy that actually will manifestly improve regular people's lives. If they cannot articulate such a thing and credibly convince the voter that they will fucking fight for it, they will never win.

But the democrats are right wing as well…

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Post by ASinclair »

tgtweak wrote: post #76

Few thoughts/observations on Tariff impacts now that we have a decent amount of time/data to look at: Suppliers in China are dropping prices to offset the tariff impact - this is what I see in my direct industry and also in many adjacent ones. This is benefitting other countries that don't have Tariffs on Chinese goods since they can buy cheaper as well. I suspect this is a significant factor in the GBP/EUR strengthe…

There are tariffs on every country, not just China. This isn’t like his first term in office. Can you speak to the impacts of those tariffs?

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Post by [deleted] »

mothballed wrote: post #213
nathan_compton wrote: post #167

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I don't buy this - Harris had a big bump in the polls as soon as she entered the race and I think she could have won if she had offered voters anything . This bullshit that American's won't vote for a woman is just an excuse not to run women and to deflect blame towards a culture war issue and away from the fact that the democrats don't actually have popular policies. I voted for Harris, I even canvased for her, but…

Harris was shitcanned post haste when she actually primaried, so the party already knew she was non-viable. She got put in as VP as the best token non-white woman from a large population state they could shove in there and then Democrats got caught with their pants down because they hid Biden's physical state past the point they could have an actual primary to vet the proper candidate. The fact Biden said he wouldn't…

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

diydsp wrote: post #10
dsr_ wrote: post #5

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Then it was a big win for Putin and his agent in the White House.

Ive done a lot of analysis on the Trump as Putin agent topic. I found he nearly as often acts agents Russia as with. What's more likely is he treats Putin as an inspiration, wrt to converting the country to an oligarchy and offshoring national funds for himself.

is the acting against Russia and against American interest, in a way that helps Russian interests, of equivocal effect?

For example if I shoot Batman in the back when he's fighting The Joker (because Batman is a vigilante so that's illegal, gotta take him down), and later make a statement to the press after Joker has been sent to Arkham "You know I think Arkham is a good place for that guy, he got what he deserved", I have acted for and against The Joker's interest, which is a good cover for me as an agent of The Joker.

I have often seen Trump doing stuff that is counter Russia's interests, but stuff that seems extremely weak sauce in contrast to weakening Nato, as just one example. It is spycraft 101 that you give your assets some simple stuff they can do against you, to make them seem trustworthy.

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Post by [deleted] »

nathan_compton wrote: post #270
tw04 wrote: post #252

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I thought you said she didn’t have a platform? Now you’re criticizing her for “giving in to political resistance” - and by that you mean not getting up on stage and just knowingly and blatantly lying to the American public by claiming she would single handedly drop the price of groceries and gasoline in her first week in office while also ending the war in Ukraine? I think you’re both moving the goal posts and claimi…

Like I said, I canvassed for and voted for Harris, but when I think of her campaign, all I can think of is "wiping the debt of Pell Grant recipients who start successful businesses that benefit disadvantaged communities." This is the lamest bullshit policy which almost seems calculated to alienate voters who it doesn't put to sleep. Please don't act like democratic politicians are losing because they have a moral com…

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