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Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

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Oh man, I didn't think I'll actually see a reply with "u mad bro?" on this site. Anyway, good luck with your endeavors.

Hey, not my problem if you can’t take a few seconds to understand what people are writing.

How could I have failed to understand such clear writing, shame on me.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#162
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Do you know a better alternative that I can get my elderly parents and non-technical friends to use? I haven’t come across one and from my amateur POV it seems much better than WhatsApp or Telegram.

XMPP, as Matrix is pretty much centralized, unless you're fortunate enough to register outside of matrix.org. Both xmpp.org and jabber.org is no longer open for registration.

only around 35% of the publicly visible matrix accounts are on matrix.org…

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#163

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The example you linked is about push notifications in general, nothing specific to the Signal app. If the concern is that your OS is compromised or spying on you, that's not something E2E encryption can protect against, whether it's Signal or any other app.

> nothing specific to the Signal app The specific part is that Signal forces Google and Apple on its users, and forces the specific kind of push notifications, too.

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Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#164

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The example you linked is about push notifications in general, nothing specific to the Signal app. If the concern is that your OS is compromised or spying on you, that's not something E2E encryption can protect against, whether it's Signal or any other app.

> nothing specific to the Signal app The specific part is that Signal forces Google and Apple on its users, and forces the specific kind of push notifications, too.

Signal works fine on degoogled LineageOS, so I'm not sure that's true.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

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Those aren't the only two options. You can buy a non-Google Android phone and install the APK on it.

How do I run Signal on my Librem 5?

Use something like gurk[0]

[0] https://github.com/boxdot/gurk-rs

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

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Having Google and Apple apps is fine. Having that be the only option, and the recommended option for high risk use cases is unforgivable.

Those aren't the only two options. You can buy a non-Google Android phone and install the APK on it.

There are no fully open/auditable android phones. All of them have privileged binary blobs. An end to end chat service where there are no options permitting full accountability of the client software and operating system is largely security theater.

Even if you do all that, it is not an official option, let alone a recommended one. The recommendation is to accept the google or apple terms of service.

Moxie even went as far as to say he would actively do anything in his power to discourage or stop the use of third party clients.

Potentially targeted users are set up to fail.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#167
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>over 3,000,000,000 users Is that a typo or are you really implying half the human population use Signal? Edit: I misread, you are counting almost every messaging app user.

Yeah, whatsapp uses the same protocol.

Well, we do not really have any idea what Whatsapp uses, because it is proprietary.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#168

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> nothing specific to the Signal app The specific part is that Signal forces Google and Apple on its users, and forces the specific kind of push notifications, too.

Signal works fine on degoogled LineageOS, so I'm not sure that's true.

LineageOS is Google's Android. Try to run Signal on a Pinephone.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

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Signal works fine on degoogled LineageOS, so I'm not sure that's true.

LineageOS is Google's Android. Try to run Signal on a Pinephone.

You can use linux clients just fine, like gurk, which I linked you in another comment.

Re: Confer – End to end encrypted AI chat

#170

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LineageOS is Google's Android. Try to run Signal on a Pinephone.

You can use linux clients just fine, like gurk, which I linked you in another comment.

AFAIK I must connect it to Android or iOS before I can use it.
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