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Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by Nora23 »

saghm wrote: post #52
eptcyka wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have fun racing to the bottom. If I can get an unsuspended VM at 5$ a month, the suspendable one has to be significantly faster or significantly cheaper. Then again, take my gnawing with a boulder of salt for I will not be a customer. I have my own server that is running 24/7 already.

Yeah, I don't really see the suspension as something worth paying more for; the only potential "feature" I can imagine is it being significantly cheaper, which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

Makes sense for dev boxes you spin up weekly but don't actually use 24/7. Like staging environments.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by LevkaDev »

krick wrote: post #71

As others pointed out, this isn't a very strong offer, but I'm wondering, if it would be competitive (price/performance wise), does anyone have a use-case for this? I mean, I can name quite a few if it would offer me some hardware that my laptop I'm using to access it just doesn't have, like some A100-level GPUs and stuff, then it would be fantastic: login, do your job, forget about it until the next time you need it…

A legit use-case is long-lived but infrequently accessed sessions.

Think debugging, learning environments, or experiments where the hard part is recreating state, not paying for compute. A VPS can do it, but suspend/resume avoids either leaving it running or constantly rebuilding it.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by wolvoleo »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #116
wolvoleo wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hetzner is cheap but they are sticklers for rules. Need photocopy of ID when renting servers etc. I just got elsewhere now

Where did you go if I may ask?

Scaleway in France. Very happy with them.

Ps not doing anything illegal but I just don't like having copies of my ID everywhere. Too much data getting leaked these days. With Scaleway you just pay with your card and that's it.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by khaki54 »

Egor3f wrote: post #4

$36/mo for 2/4/50 VPS without public IP... Ok, I get the idea that the service is for non-regular use, but I think even $0.005 per hour ($3.6/mo) of suspended state is too expensive. The same config in Hetzner is just $4.09/mo for 24/7 working VPS with public IPv4 address

How did you find $4 on Hetzner? I didn't see anything close!

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by account42 »

Nora23 wrote: post #131
saghm wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't really see the suspension as something worth paying more for; the only potential "feature" I can imagine is it being significantly cheaper, which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

Makes sense for dev boxes you spin up weekly but don't actually use 24/7. Like staging environments.

Those can just be VMs on a computer you already have. What's the advantage on putting them into a not publicly accessible cloud VM?

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by account42 »

fooker wrote: post #115
lacunary wrote: post #81

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it has to cost some amount in reserved capacity too. for every n suspended machines there is some small fraction of a machine's cpu/ram capacity that must be kept in reserve, like in a fractional lending system.

You can 'suspend' to SSD/aka hibernate. Can be pretty fast.

I think gp means that when a customer wants to connect to the VM there needs to be hardware (CPU and RAM) available to run it. While this can be less than the total number of (suspended) VMs it has to have some buffer of "unused" hardware to account for usage spikes that still needs to be paid for.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by morgoo »

khaki54 wrote: post #134
Egor3f wrote: post #4

$36/mo for 2/4/50 VPS without public IP... Ok, I get the idea that the service is for non-regular use, but I think even $0.005 per hour ($3.6/mo) of suspended state is too expensive. The same config in Hetzner is just $4.09/mo for 24/7 working VPS with public IPv4 address

How did you find $4 on Hetzner? I didn't see anything close!

https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/

CX23 is €3.49/mo, but you can save 0.50€ if you forgot ipv4.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by gildenFish »

steeleduncan wrote: post #119
yehat wrote: post #107

I have issue with that balance cut off at $5. How one spends the entire balance then?

It is odd, I would have thought $0 is the more obvious number there. It seems you can refund via a shell command though, so the money is not trapped

Given they delete the boxes at $0, that may be cutting it close. That said they should add a flag that lets a user run down to the $0 if they want to live dangerously. They could also change it to $1 since that's their minimum balance required for refund.
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