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Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by singpolyma3 »

ekropotin wrote: post #49
WhyNotHugo wrote: post #43

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Weird fun fact (as an Argentinian who went to school in England for a few years): in English-speaking countries, America is not a continent in the same way as in Spanish. In English they have two continents: South America and North America. So the word "American" in English does not mean the same as "Americano" in Spanish. There's really no natural word in English to refer to someone from "El continente Americano", b…

Frankly, the model with the single America continent doesn’t make any sense, because south and north Americas are so different in both geographical and cultural/historical sense.

Continents are about geology not culture

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by saghm »

eptcyka wrote: post #21
messh wrote: post #5

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Hi, That is a good point actually. The suspended price has to be significantly lower than the alternative. I'll revise it. Still, there is the advantage of simplicity not having to deal with the web console etc. Some people may enjoy this

Have fun racing to the bottom. If I can get an unsuspended VM at 5$ a month, the suspendable one has to be significantly faster or significantly cheaper. Then again, take my gnawing with a boulder of salt for I will not be a customer. I have my own server that is running 24/7 already.

Yeah, I don't really see the suspension as something worth paying more for; the only potential "feature" I can imagine is it being significantly cheaper, which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by Alupis »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #51
ekropotin wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, the model with the single America continent doesn’t make any sense, because south and north Americas are so different in both geographical and cultural/historical sense.

Continents are about geology not culture

Well, North and South America are two different tectonic plates[1].

[1] https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/tectonic-plates-earth

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by qudat »

This is a very cool idea and I like the simplicity of the business model! SSH has a ton of great features and its ergonomics are excellent for terminal enthusiasts. Most of us want to ssh into our cloud compute anyway. As a founder of an ssh platform (https://pico.sh) I just wanted to say welcome and good luck!

Also If you ever want to chat about ssh feel free to reach out!

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by zackify »

There's been so many of these lately.

I really need to share a blog post on doing this exact thing with a VPS, 2 commands to install and setup lxd.

And then client side bash function to just make and connect via tmux and delete when you're done.

Self hosting these services is too easy to do and you can have more control of your data and better specs.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by littlestymaar »

saghm wrote: post #52
eptcyka wrote: post #21

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Have fun racing to the bottom. If I can get an unsuspended VM at 5$ a month, the suspendable one has to be significantly faster or significantly cheaper. Then again, take my gnawing with a boulder of salt for I will not be a customer. I have my own server that is running 24/7 already.

Yeah, I don't really see the suspension as something worth paying more for; the only potential "feature" I can imagine is it being significantly cheaper, which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

> which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

A suspended machine only costs its disk usage to the hoster. You can have 800 of them on a machine with 4TB SSD. You can't say the same for VPS at all.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by littlestymaar »

einsteinx2 wrote: post #19
messh wrote: post #5

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Hi, That is a good point actually. The suspended price has to be significantly lower than the alternative. I'll revise it. Still, there is the advantage of simplicity not having to deal with the web console etc. Some people may enjoy this

Yeah this is a cool idea but the pricing is way too high. For anything I would use this for I could just set up any VPS from any provider for cheaper and it’s stateful in the sense that it’s my own VPS and my files/applications/tmux sessions/whatever will be there the next time I SSH in. The UX here seems really nice, but after spending a couple minutes setting up the VPS, I essentially get the same UX (aka just ssh…

I think it can be worth it if the suspended cost is much cheaper (like ten times) than an idle VPS, as long as you don't use the machine too often (if the active cost is 10 times more expensive than a VPS, it makes sense as long as you don't use it more than 800h a year).

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by saghm »

littlestymaar wrote: post #56
saghm wrote: post #52

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Yeah, I don't really see the suspension as something worth paying more for; the only potential "feature" I can imagine is it being significantly cheaper, which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is.

> which seems tough given how cheap a VPS already is. A suspended machine only costs its disk usage to the hoster. You can have 800 of them on a machine with 4TB SSD. You can't say the same for VPS at all.

If the pricing for a product like this reflected that, it would certainly be more appealing to me. $5 a month is already so low though that unless I got way better performance for the same price or paid like, $0.50 a month or less for the same performance, it just doesn't seem worth it to me.

Re: Linux boxes via SSH: suspended when disconected

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Post by hrimfaxi »

Kwpolska wrote: post #34
messh wrote: post #32

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Simpler, easy to use, more enjoyable and fun are also valid reasons

What’s difficult to use in Hetzner or DigitalOcean?

One thing can be simpler than another without either of them being difficult.
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