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Post by PurpleRamen »

derektank wrote: post #155
nsvd2 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

There were large protests in the wake of a law enforcement officer killing someone in 2020 too. Notably, there was not a civil war, even though the Trump administration used the protests as cover for bad behavior then too

2020 was a single accidental case as the result of a poor system. Many people even from within the system on all levels agreed something went wrong and apologized. Today's situation is different, as the whole system is weaponized on purpose from one specific layer/group against the other layers/groups of the system. It's an internal conflict within the system itself, and a prime-example for justifying a civil war. And at the time Trump was still on the leash of his own adminstration.

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Post by bflesch »

sp0ck wrote: post #168
tamimio wrote: post #79

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Don’t forget the horror stories of people relying on iCloud to have all their personal life there only to get locked out for silly reasons.

Google is no better here, I would say they are even worse since they are scanning your files actively. Remember story of Father who was asked by doctor to send his baby son private parts photos due to covid and Google not only locked him out but also notified Police. Even after getting statement from Law Enforcement there was no crime they didn't restore his access. Guy lost 20 years of live history due to algorithm.

I feel the narrative on these kind of issues should be updated. We've been using their framing of "algorithms" but it is taking away all responsibility from the US tech workers who are actually designing and running Google.

The guy lost 20 years of life history due to US tech workers at Google wrongfully blocking his account and then ignoring his pleads for reactivation.

When US tech workers can show up to take cash and bonus payments from Google, they can also show up to take responsibility for Google's impact.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by aduwah »

elAhmo wrote: post #180
agnishom wrote: post #166

This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Given the recent threats from Cloudflare against Italy and siding with Vance, Musk and co., this is definitely not a far-fetched reality. Big Tech has demonstrated which side they are going with.

When did CF do this?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by defrost »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #187
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #159

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> the left cant even fight New York and California have enough GDP, weapons factories and in-state fissile materials to make a civil war at least interesting. (They’re also both primed to land foreign armies on their shores and air strips). In repression, guns and muscles count. In a civil war, they’re as effective as Maduro’s guard was.

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I'm sure the ICE agents swapping head-shot porn on their phones find that hilarious.

In history mothers against authoritarian rule, against the draft, raising awareness, etc. have been suprisingly effective at slowing violence, attracting press coverage, kick starting civil rights, etc.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_Plaza_de_Mayo

* https://libcom.org/article/1965-72-sos-australian-mothers-re...

* https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2025/0813/israel...

Not every soldier, not every weekend warrior LEO LARPing, is comfortable shooting women in the face.

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Post by cirelli94 »

aduwah wrote: post #193
elAhmo wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the recent threats from Cloudflare against Italy and siding with Vance, Musk and co., this is definitely not a far-fetched reality. Big Tech has demonstrated which side they are going with.

When did CF do this?

A week ago.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/01/cloudflare-may-p...

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Post by Findeton »

aduwah wrote: post #193
elAhmo wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the recent threats from Cloudflare against Italy and siding with Vance, Musk and co., this is definitely not a far-fetched reality. Big Tech has demonstrated which side they are going with.

When did CF do this?

It is more about government tax warfare. They fined CF because it didn’t censor what the italian government wanted them to censor, so they fined CF.

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Post by tonyhart7 »

defrost wrote: post #194
tonyhart7 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm sure the ICE agents swapping head-shot porn on their phones find that hilarious. In history mothers against authoritarian rule, against the draft, raising awareness, etc. have been suprisingly effective at slowing violence, attracting press coverage, kick starting civil rights, etc. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_Plaza_de_Mayo * https://libcom.org/article/1965-72-sos-australian-mothers-re... * https:/…

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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by u8080 »

theshrike79 wrote: post #131
killingtime74 wrote: post #110

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If there is really a civil war, won't these frequencies just get jammed?

Meshtastic works on commercial frequencies. If they block those then a good number of non-wifi/bluetooth devices will just stop working. Including, but not limited to: garage door openers, some (older) car key fobs, some RC equipment, wireless weather sensors, remotely readable metering devices (electricity, water) and a crapton of other things.

You could just flood Meshtastic channel with valid traffic specifically

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by freehorse »

elAhmo wrote: post #180
agnishom wrote: post #166

This should be a lesson for all of us. We should start building and maintaining lightweight mesh networks, just in case. We shouldn't take the world of cooperating ISPs and Meta and Cloudflare and Google and AWS for granted.

Given the recent threats from Cloudflare against Italy and siding with Vance, Musk and co., this is definitely not a far-fetched reality. Big Tech has demonstrated which side they are going with.

Not submitting to state censorship requests is not a great example of what is the problem with Big Tech as discussed here.
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