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Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by mrtesthah »

darubedarob wrote: post #108
btbuildem wrote: post #96

Take heed, Americaneez -- and prepare, because this may be in your future sooner than prediction markets would have you believe [1]. LoRa mesh networking seems like the runner-up, but vague reports indicate (Meshtastic) doesn't handle crowds well. I think Bitchat can use Meshtastic, so a LoRa radio paired with a phone could be a base for not just texting individuals, but community messaging. 1: https://polymarket.com…

All my life ive heard this, yelled at me by deeply anti democratic anti socials. People voted for trumps policies. Again, yes even after jan 6. Better luck next time, but for 4 years this is what they ordered. ICE going after fraud and illegals. Voted for. Closed borders. Voted for. Isolationist imperialism and a end of the western free trade world order.Voted for. A loose Canon. Voted for. A screeching social priest…

People don't get to vote to violate the constitutional rights of their fellow citizens.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by nunobrito »

lukeinator42 wrote: post #49
idiotsecant wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meshtastic is both extremely range limited and trivial to DDOS. It's a fun toy protocol but it's not resistant to nation state disruption at all.

It's only line-of-sight, but isn't the range 10s-100s of kilometres in open areas? Some repeaters on hills/mountains etc. could connect large areas potentially.

Nope. Uses only one frequency that quickly gets crowded and if you are in urban areas you'd be lucky to get more than 200 meters.

It is a toy. A cheap Quangsheng/Baofeng for 20 euros can reach a few kilometers in urban area, use multiple frequencies and go for 100 kilometers easily on LoS. They even reach Australia from Europe when using a wire antenna large enough.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by akho »

bb88 wrote: post #56
hrimfaxi wrote: post #53

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What's the definition of a well-ordered militia? A bunch of farmers that go shooting together?

A bunch of farmers that go shooting drunk. /s Seriously though, everyone back in the 1700s realized that all Americans were American. I'm not sure that's true any more.

I think the most you can say is that they recognized that many male propertied white protestant Americans are American. Maybe some more qualifiers are necessary.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by derektank »

nsvd2 wrote: post #145
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

There were large protests in the wake of a law enforcement officer killing someone in 2020 too. Notably, there was not a civil war, even though the Trump administration used the protests as cover for bad behavior then too

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by kyletns »

zmgsabst wrote: post #115
killingtime74 wrote: post #110

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If there is really a civil war, won't these frequencies just get jammed?

The US is huge — you can’t jam everything everywhere. Talking about just cities, you still can’t jam everything everywhere. But yes, targeted suppression/oppression (depending on your allegiance) will almost certainly use jamming — in fact, I’ve spoken with some Antifa about how they jam EMS frequencies at their events.

Why would anti-fascists jam EMS frequencies?

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

nsvd2 wrote: post #145
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

> looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections

Civil war requires two militaries. Tiananmen Square wasn’t a civil war.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by isubkhankulov »

jddj wrote: post #138
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

There are a few like this. You can bet on Jesus not coming back in the calendar year for a little pocket money. Funny, because a bit like the yes side of the civil war scenario, if JC comes back and someone is the sort of person to bet that he will, then do they really need the payout in those circumstances; and will the gambling website be in a position to pay out?

Polymarket and other prediction markets dont take risk on the trades. Two sides are needed to make a market so you’re likely to get your payout. So all the people taking the “safe” bet lose their collateral and the winners get the proceeds if the unlikely event happens.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #135
btbuildem wrote: post #96

Take heed, Americaneez -- and prepare, because this may be in your future sooner than prediction markets would have you believe [1]. LoRa mesh networking seems like the runner-up, but vague reports indicate (Meshtastic) doesn't handle crowds well. I think Bitchat can use Meshtastic, so a LoRa radio paired with a phone could be a base for not just texting individuals, but community messaging. 1: https://polymarket.com…

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> the left cant even fight

New York and California have enough GDP, weapons factories and in-state fissile materials to make a civil war at least interesting. (They’re also both primed to land foreign armies on their shores and air strips).

In repression, guns and muscles count. In a civil war, they’re as effective as Maduro’s guard was.

Re: Briar keeps Iran connected via Bluetooth and Wi-Fi when the internet goes dark

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Post by johncolanduoni »

nsvd2 wrote: post #145
throwaway2037 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to side track too much from this discussion, but I looked at that PolyMarket event: "US civil war before 2027?" Currently, it is priced at 91.3 USD cents for No. If you bet 100 USD, the payout for No will be 109.43. That is very good return -- ~9.5% for 12 months of lending (as PolyMarket required full payment at the time of trade). That is twice the (retail) risk free rate at the moment. I am actually tempted to…

If you haven't been paying attention to American politics, there are currently widespread protests due to a woman being shot by ICE last week. It looks like the current administration may be seeking violent unrest in the hopes of delaying elections.

But if there is a civil war, what were you going to be able to do with the USD anyway?
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