Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, sports broadcasters and organizations shouldn't get special veto privileges on the internet.
How would you solve banning of pirated live streams of matches? Do you believe every event should be accessible for free to anyone?
Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
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#42> At the heart of the conflict is Italy’s ‘Piracy Shield,’ a system designed to combat illegal live streams of sports events, such as Serie A football matches. The law requires internet service providers to block reported piracy sites within 30 minutes. AGCOM insists that Cloudflare comply with these demands through its public DNS service, 1.1.1.1. When Cloudflare allegedly failed to do so, the regulator imposed a fi…
It's regular practice to block arbitrary websites in EU countries. From Spain to Germany to Italy, DNS blocks are common. Naturally "rightsholders" abuse this often.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#43Big Tech vs. Big Sports... I just can't pick a side.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#44Cloudflare PR seems to have handled this badly (judging by the fast shift in HN tone). DNS censorship is wildly unpopular. This should have been one of the easier PR jobs in the tech world: they were handed free positive publicity on a silver platter. Heck, HN expressly called on Cloudflare to take up this exact fight[0]; and now that they have, they've still, somehow, managed to turn most of HN against them. How is…
Most of HN is against Cloudflare by default. They didn't 'turn' anything in this specific event.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#45> At the heart of the conflict is Italy’s ‘Piracy Shield,’ a system designed to combat illegal live streams of sports events, such as Serie A football matches. The law requires internet service providers to block reported piracy sites within 30 minutes. AGCOM insists that Cloudflare comply with these demands through its public DNS service, 1.1.1.1. When Cloudflare allegedly failed to do so, the regulator imposed a fi…
It's regular practice to block arbitrary websites in EU countries. From Spain to Germany to Italy, DNS blocks are common. Naturally "rightsholders" abuse this often.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#46Cloudflare PR seems to have handled this badly (judging by the fast shift in HN tone). DNS censorship is wildly unpopular. This should have been one of the easier PR jobs in the tech world: they were handed free positive publicity on a silver platter. Heck, HN expressly called on Cloudflare to take up this exact fight[0]; and now that they have, they've still, somehow, managed to turn most of HN against them. How is…
The twitter rant complete with some weird AI generated image doesn't help.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#47Cloudflare PR seems to have handled this badly (judging by the fast shift in HN tone). DNS censorship is wildly unpopular. This should have been one of the easier PR jobs in the tech world: they were handed free positive publicity on a silver platter. Heck, HN expressly called on Cloudflare to take up this exact fight[0]; and now that they have, they've still, somehow, managed to turn most of HN against them. How is…
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#48> Yet the core issue is infrastructural. For years, Europe has allowed vital parts of the internet to fall into the hands of American companies
Or, is the core infrastructural issue that for the past 20+ years Internet protocols have stalled, yielding capabilities almost exclusively to centralized (and apparently highly concentrated) commercial services.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#49Lucky Italians. Can we sign up for Cloudflare to leave too?
In this case your priors are wrong and the parties you should cheer for are reversed.
Re: Cloudflare threatens Italy exit over €14M fine
#50> At the heart of the conflict is Italy’s ‘Piracy Shield,’ a system designed to combat illegal live streams of sports events, such as Serie A football matches. The law requires internet service providers to block reported piracy sites within 30 minutes. AGCOM insists that Cloudflare comply with these demands through its public DNS service, 1.1.1.1. When Cloudflare allegedly failed to do so, the regulator imposed a fi…
It's essentially a Dachverband of ISPs, bypassing all legal requirements and the judicative system to block domains across all ISPs.
There's this kid who found out about it and scraped their API, then created the cuiiliste [dot] de website where you can check what kind of domains are blocked by ISPs.
The verfassungsblog wrote about it, too, from a legal perspective [1] (German).