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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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> Laughable for you to suggest that I'm the one with the ideological bent. I'm hardly suggesting it. > recovering from internal bleeding in his chest Guy had a bruise. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/14/ice-ag... "Internal bleeding covers a wide range of severity, from minor bruising to life-threatening injuries… The day after the fatal Jan. 7 shooting, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem told reporters Ross…

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Americans have had 100 years of stable government and in the past political solutions have eventually been enacted. The Civil Rights bill was passed. Nixon pulled out of Vietnam. I think a lot of people are still expecting sanity to return. I hope they're right.

You've got three groups here. Federal cops, undocumented immigrants and the kind of people who turn out to protest the former acting against the latter. Very few people in this country finds any one of these groups particularly sympathetic and there's wide demographic swaths of the country that actively hate two if not all three of them. So yeah, everyone sees stuff that's very, very, wrong here, but nobody's really…

Undocumented immigrants? They’re just violently yanking random nonwhite people off the streets and figuring out who’s who later: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/ice-immigrat...

As well as going door-to-door and forcing entry without a warrant, besieging Spanish language immersion schools, and other dragnet horrors. Meanwhile, official DHS social media accounts are posting literal Stormfront ethnic cleansing memes. I’m not sure how anyone but the most ardent ethnonationalists can be OK with this. Even if you think all undocumented immigrants should be deported, "hunt them down like dogs and to hell with everyone else" is beastial.

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ICE is going door to door in some neighborhoods looking for non white people. US citizens have been arrested and detained, sometimes violently, and then released with no charges. So yes, our way of life is being threatened.

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Here is an example of ICE invading a home without a warrant, reported by Fox. [0] That is definitely against our way of life.

Your list of crimes is just as prevalent in white people. Statistically immigrants commit fewer crimes than native born citizens. Undocumented immigrants commit even fewer violent crimes [1]. So if we're doing house to house searches for criminals we should start with citizens.

0 - https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-family-demands-judicia...

1 - https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20250122/117827/HHRG...

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Do these [1] look like blocking traffic? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46598192

Most of those are shorts clips that do not show the context of the situation. These sorts of clips are what is causing people to believe the actions of federal agents are not justified when they actually are. When the initial clip of Renee Good came out people thought that the she did not drive into the agent but now that other angles have come out it is clear that she did hit the federal agent. It is always importan…

In what world do you think it's acceptable to knee someone in the face repeatedly when they're on the ground and not resisting? You clearly didn't watch the videos at all.

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I keep hearing this idea that boiling over lets them double down, but at the same time, it is not acceptable to let them keep doing what they do. Once the government starts using physical violence against the people and openly violating constitutional law, there is no choice, but to push back. But that pushback can look different. Personally, I think that needs to be a massive general strike across every major city.

> Personally, I think that needs to be a massive general strike across every major city. Yes, this tends to be really effective, especially when you're fighting the upper-class, which is more or less what's happening here as far as I can tell. Get all the cleaners, cooks, hotel workers and other "servants" to strike, pool up to fund a salary-light for them while they strike, and you'll see changes quickly as the uppe…

I also don’t get why the Democrat leadership is caving in on funding the government. An indefinite shutdown is called for at this point until the train of ethnonationalist authoritarianism is stopped.

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> American life is so much more distributed than European life. It isn't though, Google Maps estimate going West>East coast in the US to take 44 hours (pure driving without stops), and puts going from the South of Spain to the North of Sweden to take 50 hours, more or less the same. Then Europe is a bunch of countries, most of them speaking different languages, with way more difference in culture than the states of t…

>South of Spain to the North of Sweden to take 50 hours, more or less the same. That would be like driving from Key West to Prudhoe Bay which looks to be 91 hours. Sorry the US is big spread out place, but I also agree it's not really an excuse for what's happening.

> That would be like driving from Key West to Prudhoe Bay which looks to be 91 hours.

Haha, yeah, at least I got a laugh from it, thank you :) A fair comparison then I guess would be from Canary Islands to Svalbard, if we're aiming to make it as far as possible to make some imaginary point no one cares about :)

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Most of those are shorts clips that do not show the context of the situation. These sorts of clips are what is causing people to believe the actions of federal agents are not justified when they actually are. When the initial clip of Renee Good came out people thought that the she did not drive into the agent but now that other angles have come out it is clear that she did hit the federal agent. It is always importan…

In what world do you think it's acceptable to knee someone in the face repeatedly when they're on the ground and not resisting? You clearly didn't watch the videos at all.

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It makes perfect sense to concentrate law enforcement in a state that is in defiance. Even if the absolute numbers are low, the state cannot back down from enforcing the law because some people are resisting. Otherwise you invite anyone to disregard any law they don’t like. The state won’t allow this and the only way to overcome this is either to change the law or toss out the government, and only one options is real…

> It makes perfect sense to concentrate law enforcement in a state that is in defiance Using the word "defiance" indicates that your perspective is decidedly not American . Both the States and the Federal government are co-sovereign, mediated by the US Constitution that spells out the rights and responsibilities of each. The Federal government is currently in willful and flagrant default of this founding charter - bo…

They are certainly NOT co-sovereign, that is an absurd statement as states cannot leave the Union. Any sovereign party can withdraw from a treaty. The states are represented in their ability to collectively steer the federal government by Congress and the Electoral College. The feds are currently enforcing the ill will of both which sadly is the result of last elections.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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I'm not attempting to dispute whether or not she was obstructing.

Then I must have not understood your point. Could you clarify? I have been following all of this closely

I'm not understanding your point either, so here's how I'm interpreting what you're saying, in good faith: "she was in the way, so it was worth shooting her. fullstop".

So I'm struggling to understand why you seem to be okay with shooting someone for being in the way. So please explain to me why you think "obstruction" was worth shooting her.

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