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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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The US gov (including ICE) uses all of Microsoft Office for coordination and planning: email, spreadsheets, powerpoint, document generation, etc. Would you say Microsoft employees have blood on their hands too? If not, what makes Microsoft different?

Office can be used for things that aren't objectively evil?

All things done with office must be evil by association.

(Except clippy, he's just a guy)

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Bet. Lets see if we can get this up on polymarket, bet on it.

You already lost your own bet. "A pair of armed and masked men in tactical gear stood guard at ballot drop boxes in Mesa, Ariz., on Oct. 21 as people began early voting for the 2022 midterm elections." They might be "off-duty" but this is during Biden's admin. They're immensely more emboldened now and local LE will absolutely not enforce any laws restricting this. Source: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/06/election-offi…

So the goal post moved from ICE or Federal agents being stationed at polling stations to any individual at all?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Are there countries where people of any other country can enter without controls outside of those who form a union to control ingress from non-union members?

Like can I just get a plane ticket and stay indefinitely in Peru, Russia, UK, Cuba, Mexico, Ukraine, Uganda, Abu Dhabi, Costa Rica, India, etc?

You can rage against the question, but the question remains.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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If you work for Palantir and if you work on these systems: You have blood on your hands. You know that it's not right what is happening on the ground right now. Do something.

Wouldn’t it be even more fair to say that the people who allowed or even encouraged illegal immigration have blood on their hands because they know what they were doing and how the government would have to respond under the law? If we are going to use the line of reasoning you suggest then this should easily be on the table also.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Why would he object to illegal acts by the US when they are so profitable.

We need to expect more from our business leaders.

Palantir would be evil even if Karp was, like, woke or something.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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I assume if someone works for Palantir they're an unabashed Yarvinist and fine with it.

That's a pretty broad generalization, but OK I'll bite. - I think Yarvin has a lot of good points. No one should be ashamed to admit the truth of a matter. I can't stand his voice, I think he has annoying mannerisms, but nonetheless the man has a point and I'm not ashamed (especially by unknown and strange online personas) to say so. - Palantir is objectively a profitable job. I've learned a lot here and the people I…

I'm vouching for this comment (even though I disagree with it) as it's important to hear dissenting views.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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post #107

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The particular problem here is the vast majority of people that are writing this software 1. Don't care, blood is great. 2. Think they are the good guys. 3. Are more worried about their next paycheck and having bad things happen to them related to not paying rent.

I'd like to invite you to prove any three of your points.

It’s hard to prove without knowing the app devs, but for points 1 & maybe 2, we can look at whether Americans think the raids are justified.

28% of them think they are [0]. It wouldn’t be out of the realm of possibility that the devs would be part of that number

Edit: it looks like the poll it’s for the recent incident of the woman who was shot - my mistake. Then I would assume the number for the raids themselves is higher

[0]: https://x.com/YouGovAmerica/status/2010853750618063016

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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A person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth. Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then i…

> she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, You are lying. She waited for the pedestrian to cross. Also, obstructing traffic is not valid reason to be violent against someone. ICE or cops being violent in that situation is them abusing their power big time. So, again, we are back to Brownshirts comparison.

These guys always fall back on "bbbbut Obstructing Traffic!" as if that's a capital offense.
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