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The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis
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#112Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.
Musk tweeted yesterday that speaking hate against the country should be considered treason and lead to being locked-up. It's not hard to shift "anti-American" speech to mean "anti-ICE", anti-current-administration, etc.
He should be allowed to say that.
But it should not be enforced, or the constitution became toilet paper. I think we are arriving at the latter.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
And in 2016 he was a Clinton supporter and a self described progressive. Vance was also a never trumper by his own admission. It’s quite clear to me that these elites are just grabbing power by any means necessary. It won’t end after Trump. He’s just providing the cover in the current moment.
When the transition to authoritarianism starts elites have a choice to make. History show most will choose authoritarianism.
Larry Ellison wants constant surveillance so everyone will be 'on their best behavior'.
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#114The Palantro CEO, Alex Karp, is on the record that he approves of what the president is doing in regards to immigration enforcement and the striking of boats in international waters.
"The Palantir CEO is currently the 142nd richest man in the world, with an estimated net worth of $18.2 billion..."
https://www.realtor.com/news/celebrity-real-estate/alex-karp...
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might "look for immigrants" near polling stations in November? Would be very bad if "immigrants" (i.e. not wearing a fair face with a matching MAGA hat) could vote, amirite?
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47 million voters have been run through the citizenship database, and 10,000 were flagged for investigation. which is 0.02% even if all those turn out to be noncitizens. you're just repeating empty assertions without evidence
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#117For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…
A person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth.
Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then is removed from the car by force and refuses to move, requiring her to be carried.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
How else are we supposed to deter tech people from working for Palantir? What is a good polite method?
The govt contract with them should be voided. That's the way. But in the US no one believes they can meaningfully influence govt for real issues. And they are right. Sure you can get them to paint a rainbow zebra crossing. /s But not stop/prevent a (civil) war. Democracy dies and lobbyism (what we call corruption in "modern western democracies" -- because we dont do corruption, that's for poor countries!) takes over…
In the meantime, between now and the elections, what is a good method for deterring tech people from working for ICE? They are administering an authoritarian state today.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.
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