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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by LastTrain »

framenotre wrote: post #253
andrewvc wrote: post #19

For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…

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^ This troll apparently likes federal law enforcement wearing masks.

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

Worth reminding everyone in the EU and UK that this is not a 'them' problem.

Palantir is the main software vendor for Europol. Equally pretty much all the 1984 proposals for age or id online verification that are being massaged into existence (both in the UK and pushed by the European Commission) have their fingers all over them.

They sell pre-crime and opinion control to our democratic leaders and apparently everyone in Davos loves it.

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Post by goatlover »

fnimick wrote: post #170
an0malous wrote: post #131

I remember in the 2010s when Silicon Valley was full of founders who genuinely wanted to use technology to make the world a better place, and now it's just fascists who want to use technology to kill brown people more efficiently

> Silicon Valley was full of founders who genuinely wanted to use technology to make the world a better place No, it wasn't, it was full of people who said they wanted to use technology to make the world a better place because saying you would use technology to make the world a better place was viewed as the path to investment and success. Now, as soon as feigned empathy is no longer required for $$$, the mask comes…

And yet their base ate up the claim that DOGE was about getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse.

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Post by shrikant »

DetectDefect wrote: post #203
chinathrow wrote: post #55

If you work for Palantir and if you work on these systems: You have blood on your hands. You know that it's not right what is happening on the ground right now. Do something.

Palantir does not work in a vacuum - it requires other technology, platforms and systems to operate and succeed - many of which are designed and maintained by the users of Hacker News. Take a look at Palantir's trust center: https://palantir.safebase.us Schellman did their audit and compliance - do they have blood on their hands? How about AWS, GCP, Azure cloud resources used by Palantir - are they stained, too?

> If you work in technology, you are part of this force, whether you like it or not.

Disappointing to see you downvoted. I agree with this partially, but only because I think it applies more broadly.

I work in tech (although not in Big Tech/Mag 7/FAANG/whatever they're called now), and I feel quite acutely that anyone in the field is culpable in part for the enabling the absolutely massive dump that the capital-adjacent class is taking on the world to have their power play fantasies play out.

To the extent that I've started apologising on behalf of the field/profession to non-technical folks when they complain about yet another dark pattern/"growth hack" designed to steal their attention and money.

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Post by LastTrain »

brightball wrote: post #178
andrewvc wrote: post #19

For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…

Is there video for any of that?

If there is proof of it would it change your mind about anything?

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Post by ch2026 »

stackghost wrote: post #45
oxqbldpxo wrote: post #21

And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

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Post by newfriend »

watwut wrote: post #161
shrubble wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth. Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then i…

> she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, You are lying. She waited for the pedestrian to cross. Also, obstructing traffic is not valid reason to be violent against someone. ICE or cops being violent in that situation is them abusing their power big time. So, again, we are back to Brownshirts comparison.

Obstructing justice, and then refusing to comply / resisting arrest will lead to you being forcefully removed. This is in fact a valid reason.

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Post by ch2026 »

integralid wrote: post #214
stackghost wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

Yes, HN is my safe space. I have enough politics in my daily life, I don't need it when I'm with phone in my bed trying to wind down. And which politics? American internal politics are foreign and distant to me. How much do you care about my country internal affairs? Probably not much. And it's OK, you can't fix every country in existence, and if you tried to care you would get insane.

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Post by piva00 »

peppersghost93 wrote: post #106
csmpltn wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Has your life gotten worse in any way that can be attributed to people moving to the US?

I can't imagine how, the commenter seems to be German (or at least from a German-speaking country) given their use of the German quotation marks.

Just another radicalised-by-the-internet person trying to be vile online... The mark of the 2020s.

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Post by Kapura »

poszlem wrote: post #20

I remember hearing the "imagine if Stasi/Gestapo had the data Facebook and Twitter have on us" argument for years. Turns out they were right to be worried.

Why would you think they wouldn't be right? Even on paper, doesn't that sound like a bad thing?

the past 15 years of my life feels like a bus full of people yelling at the driver to not hit the wall he's speeding towards and he's just ignoring them saying "it will be fine." and here we are!

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