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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

> Everyone is ok targeting the immigrant populations To echo another commentor, we're not. And even if we were, this is not how it should be done. Enforcing the laws is one thing, but we have to have due process. Without due process, we have no rights.

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption. That's what the OP is saying.

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Because that's plainly not what they are always doing. And the aggressive, racist unprofessional, downright dangerous way ICE are going about things is simply shocking.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"humiliating" folks might not be the proportional response when innocent people are dying

How else are we supposed to deter tech people from working for Palantir? What is a good polite method?

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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It's crazy that anybody who has read books could learn about the company "Palantir," know where the name comes from, and join it thinking it's anything other than evil. The thing is, I know palantir engineers are well paid. Money warps people's brains. It's much easier enable evil if you can go back to a home you own in Silicon Valley.

> know where the name comes from This is a wild point to me, yeah. The Palantir is literally a cautionary tale on the risks of thinking you can use the enemy's tools without being corrupted by it.

I've lost count of people who have read Tolkien's work and never dug deeper than "cool fantasy story" level. I was no different when I read the Lord of the Rings as a teenager. Unlike C. S. Lewis, Tolkien does not shove his message down your throat.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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If you work for Palantir and if you work on these systems: You have blood on your hands. You know that it's not right what is happening on the ground right now. Do something.

The particular problem here is the vast majority of people that are writing this software 1. Don't care, blood is great. 2. Think they are the good guys. 3. Are more worried about their next paycheck and having bad things happen to them related to not paying rent.

Yes, Palantir folks have self selected for the first two over and over - anyone working there for many years now is completely blacklisted from anything I touch, when someone advertises ex-Palantir folks in the job description I know I can safely avoid that company forever.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

#126

The Palantro CEO, Alex Karp, is on the record that he approves of what the president is doing in regards to immigration enforcement and the striking of boats in international waters.

900 million in federal contracts this year will do that

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…

A person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth. Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then i…

I’m here in the ground, I’ve seen them detain people for no cause. Masked agents grabbing guys out of a Home Depot parking lot and throwing them in a van only to drop them off later after scaring them. No charges.

Maybe you’ll be lucky enough to get picked up so you can get your proof.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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For an idea as to how this gets translated into the reality on the ground here in Minneapolis this is an article on what’s going on from the main newspaper in the state. > In the past week alone, ICE boxed in a Woodbury real estate agent recording their movements from his car, slammed him to the ground and detained him at the Whipple Federal Building near Fort Snelling for 10 hours. A 51-year-old teacher patrolling t…

A person who believes the above examples should try to find the videos or other details of each case in order to be sure they are being told the truth. Assuming that the “carried the woman through the street” is the same case as the video I watched, she was clearly deliberately obstructing traffic, as she wasn’t continuing to drive down the street despite the road being clear with no vehicles ahead of her. She then i…

Yeah probably is all just made up seems like good guys /s

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

#130
I've been on the receiving end of federal enforcement (DOJ, high-profile "cybercrime"). When they want you, they don't need a confidence score. There is no quota—they take time to build a case. The existence of these tools tells you this isn't targeted enforcement, it's industrial-scale population processing dressed up in an algorithm.

I live in Minnesota. This is my backyard.

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