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That misses the point. I don’t even want to think about any of that stuff. It’s a single command to install oh-my-zsh. I can fire it off, check Slack, and come back in 5 minutes. If I have to take 5 minutes to setup it up, I’m just not going to do it.
Caring enough to read a blog post and comment on hackernews, but not enough to copy/paste the changes from the blog post is a very fine line.
I had the same gripe as the author. OhmyZSH seems too bloated for my needs. Added to that, the defaults adds (and oft unnecessary) emojis to prompts & outputs - something I don't find tasteful or appealing. I stripped out most of the OhMyZsh functions (which is pretty modular given a shell package) and created a smaller, leaner package (leanZSH) having only the known stuff I may use. I have been using it without much…
I use oh my zsh for exactly one reason: I can get a good shell experience out of the box and immediately start working on stuff productively, whether it's a new machine, a new remote host or a container. I could spend hours figuring out all those things, bit I'd rather use that time for something more important.
Try https://starship.rs then. Starship gives you the same "drop in and go" experience but without the 200ms+ prompt lag. One curl -> one line in your rc file, works on zsh/bash/fish/whatever. Configuration is straightforward and easy imo: https://starship.rs/config/ Give it a spin, I think you won't regret it.
Like many other people, I use oh-my-zsh for default setup and that's it. I literally use a single plugin for git and very actively autoload my custom functions to avoid startup delay. With my 384 line config and oh-my-zsh on, here are the results: $ hyperfine -N "zsh -lc 'exit 0'" "zsh -c 'exit 0'" Benchmark 1: zsh -lc 'exit 0' Time (mean ± σ): 54.5 ms ± 6.3 ms [User: 10.2 ms, System: 14.3 ms] Range (min … max): 38.1…
I use oh my zsh for exactly one reason: I can get a good shell experience out of the box and immediately start working on stuff productively, whether it's a new machine, a new remote host or a container. I could spend hours figuring out all those things, bit I'd rather use that time for something more important.
Try https://starship.rs then. Starship gives you the same "drop in and go" experience but without the 200ms+ prompt lag. One curl -> one line in your rc file, works on zsh/bash/fish/whatever. Configuration is straightforward and easy imo: https://starship.rs/config/ Give it a spin, I think you won't regret it.
I switched to zim years ago and found it has all the features that I need but is much faster and I think easier to install (though I haven’t installed either for some time). https://zimfw.sh/
Zimfw definitely has it's own ecosystem, plugins which are zimfw capable. But it's remarkably versatile at bringing in zsh code. Most plugin-systems are pretty ego-centric, demand specific implementations, and zimfw stands out not just for it's ridiculously impressive speed & handling, but for it's versatility too.
Zimfw rocks.
Are we really quibbling over 400ms startup delay to open a new terminal?
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Show me an environment where I can interact with my system programmatically, where I can compose together arbitrary tools, and which will never, ever, ever break on me, and I'll switch! My experience with graphical environments has been that they rarely compose, often break, and constantly make arbitrary changes that break my workflow. So every time I try something else I end up coming back to the terminal. But I agr…
https://fishshell.com/ https://xon.sh/ https://www.nushell.sh/ https://elv.sh/ You're replying to someone that says POSIX shells are holding people back, not that the terminal is a bad idea, there are many alternative shells which offer benefits over POSIX shells. fish-shell has everything you want from an interactive shell included, xonsh is a mix Python shell, nushell and elvish are adding types and other things to…
zsh is still crazy to me. I use bash for everything. I have no idea what I’m missing out on.
Slight pain on a mac to get the latest version and use it as terminal shell, but it gets easier everytime I work on a fresh mac.
[1]: https://eli.thegreenplace.net/2013/06/11/keeping-persistent-...