Let's call a murder a murder

Post by computerthings » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 12:15 AM UTC

rozap wrote: post #116

vdupras wrote: post #11

And it's flagged, of course. Will somebody vouch for this? I know what you're thinking. This doesn't encourage curiosity! This is politics! Same old, same old. HN! Come on, how myopic must you be to not see that a working democracy is a condition sine qua non of your dear curiosity. You see what's happening in Iran, right? Well, they don't! Put your glasses on, HN, you're not seeing shit.

It's crazy to me that "no politics" arguments are still getting flung around. This is so far beyond political at this point. Citizens being murdered by masked men with total immunity? What the fuck has our country come to. He already has talked about cancelling the election. What happens when he declares a state of emergency to cancel the 2026 midterms - is that political? Are we allowed to discuss it? The effective…

Post by bananabiscuit » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 12:34 AM UTC

remich wrote: post #163

bananabiscuit wrote: post #138

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I think this situation is very tragic, and I wish it had not happened. The reason I am taking this stance, is because I think that, unless they are fine with becoming a martyr, people should not go and mess with government officers in the streets. Yeah, I know: “victim blaming”, but there is a difference between officers descending upon a blameless victim vs. you going out looking to make trouble with authority. Even…

What if the instructions they give you would be to submit to them while they assaulted you, sexually or physically? Are you supposed to comply and then challenge them in court later? That is a thing that happens. Rarely, I suppose, and #notallpolice and all that, but the idea that we should live in a country where everyone just has to "comply" with the instructions or be murdered is ridiculous.

Post by asgeesg » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 12:44 AM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #107

lostmsu wrote: post #36

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The footage from the killer is now available. Her last words were "we are not mad at you." His first words after she died were "fucking bitch."

Post by lostmsu » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 12:57 AM UTC

metaphysicalyes wrote: post #104

lostmsu wrote: post #81

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There's a frame in the YouTube video I linked where the officer is right in front of the car, the car wheel is still turned toward the driver window (so if no steering is done it would run over the officer, moreover it is directed to where the officer ends up in the end), and the front wheels with a skid starts pulling the car forward in that direction. In fact, the car goes toward the officer for about 15 frames of…

Lets assume you are right. How do you justify the 2nd and 3rd shot from the side window? Very curious how your mind works.

Post by luke5441 » Sat, Jan 10, 2026, 1:24 AM UTC

bananabiscuit wrote: post #176

luke5441 wrote: post #168

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It's not about a world view. It is about watching a video and seeing what is happening. Unless you mean "world view" is my knowledge about how cars and guns work.

I watched the video and I saw Renee attempt to hit the ICE agent with her car. After doing that, lethal force is unfortunately on the table. The officer doesn’t have time after that to wait and see if she is going to try to kill him again or not.